There's been allot of talk about different rinses

[bob vawter]

Other than surfactants and optical brightners....my job has mostly been done here....not even a need for me to
Bother.......

 

[Mikey P]

I take it you no likey likey the powered force?

Whats that?

 

[bob vawter]

And it's quite confusing to me.

I've seen posts about:

Powder detergents
Powder emulsifiers
Liquid emulsifiers
Alkaline butyl rinses (might be the same as liquid emulsifiers)
Acid rinses

I know when to use my acid rinse, but why is there a need to have all the different alkaline rinses. And IS there a need? Under what conditions do we need to use a certain alkaline rinse? No mumbo jumbo!!! Just give me the dumbed down version. I don't have a chemist degree.

Also, if we buy all those different alkaline rinses, what TYPE of prespray partners together with the rinse to give it the best performance? Powder Enzyme, Powder butyl/phosphate, Heavy Citrus high ph, etc. ?

I was playing with powder emulsifier last week, and it was nothing to brag about on carpet and trashed upholstery. So as of now, that's off my list. Back to acid rinse for me.

Idiot

 

[Cleanworks]

Totally agree, we try to remove as much chemical as possible, not introduce more.

The problem is, water by itself doesn't remove all your prespray or the soils it's loosened up. Just think of how long it takes to rinse shampoo out of your hair. Are you really rinsing the carpet that well?

 

[bob vawter]

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Here is a test for the water only guys. Mix up a cup of pre spray. Then a cup of just water and a cup of water with your choice of acid rines. (I have my favorite but any of the top brands will all be close) Dip a finger in the prespray cup then into the just water cup, feel the slime on your finger. Now use the other hand and do the same with the rinse. This is how Angela Rojo got me to start accepting the guys with PHD behind their name knew more than
the guy with a high school education when it came to chemistry. I was 100% anti anything other than water, why? because i didn't use anything but water to rinse the soap off in the shower how would rinsing one chemical off with another chemical leave less chemical? Science...DUH!

And if you clean a place four times a year compared to one time a year
......your proceeds from that home increase by how much?

Bob Vawter
High scoole grad

 

[Total_Rookie]

Whats that?

It’s the rinse nomad was talking about. Ahh never mind who am I kidding... I get the idea.

 

[Nomad74]

I'm so lost. My rinse is liquid, not powder.

Considering a Taco Bell run.

 

[Cleanworks]

I'm so lost. My rinse is liquid, not powder.

Considering a Taco Bell run.

Wendy's going to feel hurt.

 

[hogjowl]

I don’t pay any attention to most of you idiots
Especially those of you selling things

 

[Dolly Llama]

over thinking rocket science moron CC'ers

good quality alkaline rinse metered light rinses best .
Stop with your overuse of delimo pre-sprays , learn how to use a wand right, and resoil won't a be a problem .
nor will you have any other issues either

..L.T.A.

 

[bob vawter]

over thinking rocket science moron CC'ers

good quality alkaline rinse metered light rinses best .
Stop with your overuse of delimo pre-sprays , learn how to use a wand right, and resoil won't a be a problem .
nor will you have any other issues either

..L.T.A.

There now......i am no longer needed in Minn!!!

thanks Larr

 

[Nomad74]

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Do you know the pH on this product? I am just curious as I've course have not had the opportunity to try it. Thanks

Acid is 3-3.5 and all Fiber soft stuff is 4-4.5. Happy with them both.

 

[BIG WOOD]

Acid is 3-3.5 and all Fiber soft stuff is 4-4.5. Happy with them both.

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It seems like a waste of space on the shelf to have two different acid rinses Just pick one

 

[Nomad74]

It seems like a waste of space on the shelf to have two different acid rinses Just pick one

I ordered the non-acid by accident. They all look alike. But still. My results are Titty Pink.

 

[BIG WOOD]

Dumbass.

 

[Nomad74]

Matt. I agree with you that it gets confusing. It took me a long time of experiementing around to find what works best for me. I’m pretty comfy now.

So I just cleaned this place and forgot to turn on my rinse. I guess we’ll see how Code Red works with only Shasta County Well water rinse.

 

[Dolly Llama]

lta

 

[bob vawter]

I agree Larr....ya SPELL it right out
And they go buy something COMPLETELY different. ..go figger!

 

[Jimmy L]

Suppose you idiots also tell your customers you ACID RINSE their carpets.

 

[Hack Attack]

its a conditioning rinse, the house wives understand and love it

 

[ruff]

It seems like a waste of space on the shelf to have two different acid rinses Just pick one

Different purposes.

1. The acid rinse with detergent will have more cleaning power, will leave more residue, yet will neutralize alkalinity and leave a soft touch.
2. The other will leave less residue (no detergent) and act more as a dye stabilizer, alkaline rinsing neutralizing and leave the fabric (upholstery in particular but not limited to) more ready to accept Teflon. It will however rely solely on the pre-spray to do the heavy lifting.

Norman 74 sensed it but not quite verbalized it. Which is what he may have meant by saying- "It left him "Titty Pink". Or- Whatever that may mean

 

[BIG WOOD]

Different purposes.

1. The acid rinse with detergent will have more cleaning power, yet will neutralize alkalinity and leave a soft touch.
2. The other will leave less residue (no detergent) and act more as a dye stabilizer, alkaline rinsing neutralizing and leave the fabric (upholstery in particular but not limited to) more ready to accept Teflon. It will however rely solely on the pre-spray to do the heavy lifting.

Norman 74 sensed it but not quite verbalized it. As he said- it left him "Titty Pink". Whatever that may mean

That's still too complicated. Just combine them and you got the best of both worlds.

 

[ruff]

Isn't that still too complicated?

 

[Nomad74]

My thinking is , Why do you need a detergent rinse at all? If your prespray ain't cutting it, then get a stronger prespray. You should not need a rinse for a cleaning boost. Acid is a different story. It breaks down the pH, prevents browning, and leaves the carpet soft.

 

[Nomad74]

Matt, you spelled "A lot" wrong.

You're welcome

 

[BIG WOOD]

Matt, you spelled "A lot" wrong.

You're welcome

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[ruff]

My thinking is , Why do you need a detergent rinse at all? If your prespray ain't cutting it, then get a stronger prespray. You should not need a rinse for a cleaning boost. Acid is a different story. It breaks down the pH, prevents browning, and leaves the carpet soft.

Because some of us found (and some disagree. you'll have to form your own opinion) that some pre-sprays do not flush very well with just water. Just based on my experience. So a little cleaning boost by the rinse, imho left the carpet cleaner and the "residue" was minuscule. As a matter of fact in my experiments at home the mild alkaline rinse looked better and stayed clean longer (very slightly). And less re-appearing stains.

Others feel differently.

 

[Hack Attack]

do you clean a lot of natural fibre and nylons? use an acid rinse

do you upsell protector? use an acid rinse

do you clean white trash hell holes? use a detergent rinse

do you like doing extra passes to remove prespray? use a water rinse

 

[bob vawter]

My thinking is , Why do you need a detergent rinse at all? If your prespray ain't cutting it, then get a stronger prespray. You should not need a rinse for a cleaning boost. Acid is a different story. It breaks down the pH, prevents browning, and leaves the carpet soft.

CUZ.....when you make yor first pass over yor "prespray " ...its GONE.....
Now what..if theres dirt left yor clear water rinse aint gonna do squat...

 

[Nomad74]

Because some of us found (and some disagree. you'll have to form your own opinion) that some pre-sprays do not flush very well with just water. Just based on my experience. So a little cleaning boost by the rinse, imho left the carpet cleaner and the "residue" was minuscule. As a matter of fact in my experiments at home the mild alkaline rinse looked better and stayed clean longer (very slightly). And less re-appearing stains.

Others feel differently.

I only experiment with encap in my house. My wife doesn’t pay very well.