There's been allot of talk about different rinses

[Nomad74]

CUZ.....when you make yor first pass over yor "prespray " ...its GONE.....
Now what..if theres dirt left yor clear water rinse aint gonna do squat...

I don’t leave dirt behind.

Edit: I know I’m going to pay for that comment.

 

[Hack Attack]

CUZ.....when you make yor first pass over yor "prespray " ...its GONE.....
Now what..if theres dirt left yor clear water rinse aint gonna do squat...

and that was how I realised my clear water rinse wasn't rinsing well, I could do multiple passes on same spot and it would get cleaner.
Acid or alk rinses you get more 1 pass cleans in my experience

 

[Dolly Llama]

My thinking is , Why do you need a detergent rinse at all? If your prespray ain't cutting it, then get a stronger prespray. You should not need a rinse for a cleaning boost

cause some folks can figure things out for themselves ...and have never had to rely on "cause So 'n So said so"

don't need much, just a little alkaline rinse, rinses pre-sprays out better

It breaks down the pH

and that accomplishes what of any value?
and if you say it helps prevent resoil, you're doomed to be a pack following majoon the rest of your miserable wretched life


..L.T.A.

 

[bob vawter]

stop resoil??? what part of the pie is THAT?
i wuz cleaning my south end homes FOUR times a year........

they still thought i was GOD!!!

 

[Cleanworks]

do you clean a lot of natural fibre and nylons? use an acid rinse

do you upsell protector? use an acid rinse

do you clean white trash hell holes? use a detergent rinse

do you like doing extra passes to remove prespray? dont use a rinse

Bullshit

 

[Cleanworks]

Natural fibres may be the exception. Strong alkalines may increase the chance of browning or dye bleed on natural fabrics or carpets. Excess heat will do the same. Nylon does not need acid rinsing. I like to leave the carpets NEUTRAL. Test the pH of a wet carpet after using a 9-10 ph prespray followed by a 9-10 ph rinse agent and you will find that it is neutral or very close to it. Why? The water most carpet cleaners use is slightly acidic and the bulk of the soil is acidic. You don't need an acid rinse to neutralize your prespray unless you're using too high a ph to begin with and then damage is already done.

 

[Nomad74]

Acid also keeps the urine from wicking up from the pad. I get a lot urine jobs.

 

[Hack Attack]

Soil will break down the pH correct

Nylon dyes are acid based dyes and the Mills here stipulate acid rinses are used (nylon is around 80% our domestic market)

Every protector I've read (which is not a lot as we dont get many) says acid rinse

 

[Hack Attack]

*nylon around 60% our market

 

[Cleanworks]

Soil will break down the pH correct

Nylon dyes are acid based dyes and the Mills here stipulate acid rinses are used (nylon is around 80% our domestic market)

Every protector I've read (which is not a lot as we dont get many) says acid rinse

Lol all the mill literature I have read has said under 10 ph on stain resistant nylon carpets. I have never seen them say acid rinse.

 

[ruff]

I'd be damned. You guys read mill literature?
Which is the best seller?

 

[Cleanworks]

I'd be damned. You guys read mill literature?
Which is the best seller?

Shaw

 

[Nomad74]

Matt, see what you started!

 

[ruff]

Don't complicate his life.

 

[Dolly Llama]

Acid also keeps the urine from wicking up from the pad

how does it accomplish that?

and if you say "So 'n So told me" I'm sending one of my Vagos associates to slash some freshly cleaned boat seats .....

..L.T.A.

 

[Hack Attack]

mills here refer to our industry standard which says acid rinse unless doing restorative clean. I think our standard is based on iicrc dunno never read iicrc standard? other than the restoration ones

 

[Cleanworks]

Matt doesn't know the difference between purple Microdot and all fibre rinse.

 

[Hack Attack]

Acid also keeps the urine from wicking up from the pad. I get a lot urine jobs.

acid rinse should help kill the funkiness but cant see how the pH changes tendancy to wick?

 

[Cleanworks]

Sorry Matt, couldnt resist. Must be the flashbacks.

 

[Nomad74]

Personal experience. I’ve noticed when I clean piss holes with an acid rinse, wicking rarely occurs. I don’t ask why, I just Do

 

[Cleanworks]

The acid helps to dissolve and neutralize the alkaline salts.

 

[Hack Attack]

Personal experience. I’ve noticed when I clean piss holes with an acid rinse, wicking rarely occurs. I don’t ask why, I just Do

please dont rely on personal experience

Bob will be along soon

 

[bob vawter]

Moreens all..

 

[Cleanworks]

Moreens all..

I dated a girl named moreen once.

 

[Nomad74]

But do you know what a Devastator filter is?

I’ll give you a hint, it doesn’t emulsify.

 

[bob vawter]

I dated a girl named moreen once.

it was Noreen and i dated her to....

 

[bob vawter]

But do you know what a Devastator filter is?

im gonna take a chance and say that it slowly plugs up a vacuum hose...?

 

[Nomad74]

Hahahahaha

 

[Nomad74]

I’m going back out to the garage to polish some more boat seats.

 

[Loren Egland]

mills here refer to our industry standard which says acid rinse unless doing restorative clean. I think our standard is based on iicrc dunno never read iicrc standard? other than the restoration ones

Its been a while since I took my last IICRC class, but to my knowledge their cleaning standard does not require acid rinse. I am under the impression that the acid rinsing of carpet phenomena was due to the use of very high pH presprays that needed to be knocked down some. Later it seemed to have caught on with the cleaning boards as something essential, rather than for just certain occasions where it would be beneficial to use an acid side rinse.