Those Innovative Monkey Pad guys...

[Mikey P]

These guys are going to be real movers and shakers in the hard floor industry.

The pads, a complete line of cleaners and sealers (including a incredible stone wax), hands on training seminars and owner that came from the same trenches we as owner ops live in will put these fine folks over the top. Expect to see IFS become the new Stone Tech. Others have tried but Dana and his crew have what it takes to completely dominate the Hard Surface.Just you watch.

Anyways, we've been talking about what MB can do for him and what IFS can do for us.
For starters they want to continue the Connections special of buy one set 17" Monkey Pads get 1 set 5" pads for free. Buy several sets and double the free 5" sets. So if you bought 3 sets of 17" you/ll get 6 free sets of 5" pads. That's 1200.00 of free pads!

Dana Kothrade, the owner of IFS also will be in the Greenhorn Room on October 15th (7pm pst) to talk about his simplified tile and grout cleaning and a stone polishing systems that are so simple even a Jimmy could do it.

http://www.innovativeSurfaceSolutions.com
http://www.monkeypads.com

Mark your calenders folks!

 

[Greenie]

The "Chimp" is here to stay.

Dana better give a free set of pads to everyone who wants them after a year of irritating Polish style email spam.

 

[Scott]

The "Chimp" is here to stay.

Dana better give a free set of pads to everyone who wants them after a year of irritating Polish style email spam.

Greenie, help me out here. Where have we heard the name Dana Kothrade? It's so familiar, but I can't place the name.

 

[Greenie]

I only know Dana from one place, my email Inbox....over and over and over again, I think Pro-Cleaners took a page from Dana's book.

 

[Shorty]

Scott, this may help............

http://www.pcomillionaire.com/testimonials.html

Scroll down until you read this………………….

“Hey Chet!!! Dana Kothrade here. I don't know if you heard but your speech at the end of our meeting was the straw that broke the camels back for me. I realized at that moment what I should have known all along.
Since then I've implemented more things than I have in the last two years combined. We now have daily rituals that charge us up everyday. We just had the best week we've ever had since starting this business four years ago. We actually blew our weekly goal out of the water and did it in less time than we normally work. The days of my 80 hour work weeks are over. Working smarter every day is sooooooooo much more profitable. Thanks in part to you I'm training my first tech and can clearly see the day I will be OFF THE TRUCK!
I'm telling you all this for two reasons:
1. I wanted to sincerely thank you for your part in my development as a business owner, you motivate me to try harder, work smarter and never stop learning and setting my sights high.
2. You need realize that the story of your struggles and the way you share them have huge power to help people grow into more than they may believe they are capable of being!!!
Dude! I wake up so fired up I can hardly wait to start my day, that's a big change from waking up saying, ‘CRAP!!! I hate this crappy business!!!’
WE WILL MAKE THE NECESSARY CHANGES! WE ARE HAVING EXPLOSIVE GROWTH IN ALL AREAS OF OUR LIVES AND BUSINESS! AND YOU HELPED US DO IT! THANKS FOR SETTING THE BAR, NEVER STOP RAISING IT!!!”
Dana Kothrade – San Diego, California


http://www.joepolish.com/superconference2007/spillguts.php

Again, scroll down……………..

“I’m foaming at the mouth like frigin CUJO about the future of my business! Our monthly revenue was around $2,000 a month [before]. We are now doing over $10,000.00 per month.”
-Dana Kothrade, Escondido, CA

http://www.automaticincomesystem.com/getlisahome.html

This is a ripper, John Watson should read it

We Made More Than $266,940.00 In The First 17 Months

Since investing in the Automatic Income System, Dana and I have used it to find a niche market (just like you taught us) and began offering them a hands-on training course for $5,000.00. So far, we've had 52 people travel to Escondido and attend the class. In addition, 20 of them are now in our Full-Throttle Mentoring Program and paying us $347.00 a month.

Kim & Dana Kothrade - Escondido, CA





Enough is enough, do a search yerself :wink:

Ooroo

:roll:

 

[Greg Trigeiro]

The monkey pads are great. We have done a couple of honing jobs on travertine and a polishing job on a marble floor.

So much easier to use than diamond grinding with "hockey puck" diamonds or using honing powders or crystalizing. Don't have to do all that lippage removal on almost all jobs as I see it.

I did take Dana's week long training with one of my employees earlier in the year. Expensive, yes. Screw-ups on jobs since the training, none. Made more money than I would have without the training, yes. E-mail marketing by Dana, I don't care, I'm making more money now, and easier too.

Greg Trigeiro

 

[Greenie]

So you spent $10K and $347 a month?

If it's good stuff any reason you left your buddies out?

 

[Mikey P]

Yep, Dana is a past Joey and Howie guy, both of whom hate his guts now.


So he cant be all bad.

 

[Greenie]

ok, I'll give him 10 mins. before I go for the throat.

Effective immediately I'm charging $5,000 for consulting.

 

[Nate The Great]

ok, I'll give him 10 mins. before I go for the throat.

Effective immediately I'm charging $5,000 for consulting.

What, No Kamaaina rates Greenie?

 

[steve frasier]

I plan on getting the weighted pad driver and a case of pads, just have not got around to calling yet

will post pictures of some terrazzo when I get it done

 

[Mikey P]

No weighted pad needed Steve.

 

[Gary T]

So you guys really getting these re-named pads is actually going to make you stone restoration professionals? I wouldn't bet on it. Sure they are good for some applications and have a place. They do not work with any lippage except for the most minor cases. They do not give near the clarity that conventional tried and true methods give. They do not work with every stone out there just as diamond pads do not. There are several pads on the market now, manufactured by companies with much deeper stone knowledge than this guy, who just private labels his stuff.

If you want to believe that you can take shortcuts in the stone industry you are sadly mistaken. Marketing can be very deceiving and with lack of knowledge of the consumer about the medium on which you are applying these concepts, the wool can easily pulled over your eyes.

I have demoed all of these "simple, even a monkey could do it answers" to professional stone restoration, and there are some good applications for these things, but when it comes to the "answer to all your prayers in making stone restoration easy", these things all fall well short.

Good Luck if you choose to believe the hype!!!

 

[Mikey P]

I'll show you Gary, I'LL SHOW YOU!!!!!!

 

[alazo1]

They do not give near the clarity that conventional tried and true methods give

Does the clarity hold up if you use them just for final polishing Gary?.

Albert

 

[Gary T]

Does the clarity hold up if you use them just for final polishing Gary?.

No. But why would you want to. You are talking of several unnecessary steps that can be achieved in one step with a good polishing powder.

I can achieve consistent excellent clarity on many marbles at 400-600 grit with diamond pads. Hit it with 5X, MB12 and it is like a mirror. To achieve the same finish with diamonds it would be necessary to continue with 800, 1500, 3000, then possibly buff. That is 2-3 extra, time consuming steps to get a shine that might compare to that of a quality powder.

I'll show you Gary, I'LL SHOW YOU!!!!!!
I'll show you Gary, I'LL SHOW YOU!!!!!!

This does not involve a long trench coat, dark sunglasses, and a goofy hat, does it?

 

[Chris Muetterties]

This does not involve a long trench coat, dark sunglasses, and a goofy hat, does it?

Man O man he's got Mikes number

 

[DANA KOTHRADE]

Clarification On Monkey Pads

I have read every post about us and the monkey pads and just wanted to address the posts myself.

1. Our company invests in any educational materials, systems, seminars or organizations that will help our team become more effective, efficient or more profitable.

2. Yes we've purchased things from the people mentioned and dozens of others over the years. They are part of how we have experienced tremendous growth and expansion is such a short time.

3. Some people don't like Joe Polish, Howard Partrige, Mark Victor Hansen, Chet Rowland and many others like them... So what. We don't buy information because we like them. The ideas is to gather information, pick out the good, throw away the bad and keep movin forward.

4. Yes at one point I was a carpet cleaner, then got into stone restoration. Then started training others in the traditional methods. Then we started manufacturing our own chemicals, equipment and other products. My experience in the field is what has made our training so benifical to other guys trying to make the same transition.

5. The "Monkey Pads" are not private labeled. We have patent pending on these pads which are VERY different than whats out there. The only similarity is that they use abrasives as one component of several. Those pads work just as described above, there are clarity issues, they don't work well on many surfaces and they wear out quickly.
Thats why we've spent years developing them- to resolve those issues and give you guys a tool that actually works. Don't take my word for it. Ask anyone who has used them.

6. I find it interesting how 100% of the people who have tried them, LOVE them and the only people who have ever said anything negative about them assume they are the private label twister and have never even used ours. Before you bash something that could increase your sales, lower your labor and materials costs, eliminate problems on the job and allow you to train a new tech in a few minutes,,, you might want to try them...

Sorry about the long post.

I'll ask some of the guys that use them to jump on here so you can ask them about them.

Simply put,, They Just Work, what more can I say.

Dana Kothrade

 

[Greg Trigeiro]

Gary, you are right, if you want to remove lippage, use to old fashioned diamond method. If you are taking out scratches in traffic paths of marble with your "old fashioned" method, you must start with the lippage removal step and go up from their.

If all the customer wants is a floor that looks like it was when it was installed (and why isn't that a good goal), we now have an alternative "tool" with these new monkey pads.

These pads are different than other abrasive pads that you might have used in the past. Don't give a review on something until you have used them on some different jobs.

Go all the way up to 11,000 grit monkey pads on marble and see the clairity. It beats the factory finish easily.

Greenie, all you have to do is come up with a training program and system for us service companies that gives a great value, and that we will make a ton of money, and you can be in the training industry too. I have not been to any week long, hands on (maybe an hour a day at the most in the classroom) program with only 5 students. Talk about a lot of experience gained in a week. I also made a great contact with one of the other students in the class that has resulted in some steady work coming my way from a major restoration contractor. I got a treamendous value for the money I spent.

You have made an impact in my business and this industry with you glides. These monkey pads might also end up being something very inovative for our industry too. Stay tuned.

Greg Trigeiro

PS I am still looking for an easy to use, all inclusive, wood floor re-coat system for everything from laminate, engineered wood, to distressed wood floors that is available in matt, semi-gloss, and gloss AND is as easy to use as cleaning and re-coating a VCT floor. Sorry, Lamanator Plus will not accomplish this.

 

[Chris Muetterties]

Greg,

Sorry I missed you in Vegas this year. Great post.

Chris
P.S.

Will these monkey pads add shine to granite counters ?

 

[Gary T]

Dana

If you would like to send me some, I would have no problem running them through their paces next to my tried and true diamonds, 5X or MB12. I'll then give an honest opinion. I'm always open to trying new things, but I have found over and over in the stone industry, "if it sounds too good..." you know the rest.

Go all the way up to 11,000 grit monkey pads on marble and see the clairity. It beats the factory finish easily.

Greg

How many steps to get to 11,000?

I will put the factory to shame in 4 steps or less with diamonds and powder on many marbles and you'll be able to read a book in the reflection from 10ft.

Why would you want or need to go any further or take unnecessary steps (costly too) to produce better than factory with clarity. I can do it with pads and powder without having to back over the floor with several more grits.

 

[alazo1]

What makes them better then the other abraisive pads?. I recently went to a stone training class and these types of pads were mentioned for maintenance of com. floors. Much better alternative then crystalizing and user friendly. I know that grandquartz has some but what makes this different?

Albert

 

[hogjowl]

Is this Monkey Pad dude advertising here?

It sounds like he is.

 

[Bob Foster]

I bet he will advertise but if you seen the stuff work (and I did) you could understand why Mike is talking about it so much. Cool stuff and you don't have to be a forth generation tile man to use it. Providing someone doesn't show us the identical pads for 25% of the price ( and I don't think that is the case), then Dana's got it happening...

 

[DANA KOTHRADE]

Greenie, I can use diamonds and powders and get it done quickly too. So can most stone guys, the pads are meant to allow others the opportunity to get the same results without risk. They are not a miracle fix all, but another great tool for your tool box. We have doubled production every month. They are being used by many seasoned pros in hotels, casinos and homes all over the US to fix a variety of issues.

We don't give out free samples.

 

[Gary T]

Can't put your product where your advertising is? If they work as you claim, I'll gladly pay for them. If they don't, I'll send em back. You do have a 100% no questions asked money back guarantee, if it not so simple a monkey could do it, right?

 

[Mikey P]

I really feel for the seasoned pros like Gary who have spent a life time and boat loads of cash to become a "Stone Pro" and now every Mikey, Marty and Waldo will be able to do 80% of what he does for next to nothing.



Sucks, but it is what it is.

 

[Bob Foster]

Just bought a Makita 9227C - 7" Buffer Polisher Sander on eBay new for $145 free shipping.

 

[steve frasier]

No weighted pad needed Steve.

I have watched the training DVD and the weighted drived is mentioned as a needed item

I spoke to Ashley @ Connections and explained to her what I was going to do and she recommended to buy the weighted drive block

I have a terazzo floor that has been stripped and waxed for years that I would like to polish, that would be the main reason to buy the weighted drive block

 

[Mikey P]

I have a very dirty and heavily vinegar streaked limestone floor to do soon.

Beautiful test for the Monkeys.



I'll take pics.