Video says double the strength

[SamIam]

Judson 02 rinse is double the strength.

A 7 ph rinse new improved, but they basically made it more concentrated so it goes further.

It's not stronger surfactant wise?

It's a rinse I was hoping for a lower PH to neutralize ph.

 

[Mikey P]

Judson 02 rinse is double the strength.

A 7 ph rinse new improved, but they basically made it more concentrated so it goes further.

It's not stronger surfactant wise?

It's a rinse I was hoping for a lower PH to neutralize ph.

After all this time, shouldn't you have settled on a few time tested faves?

 

[SamIam]

After all this time, shouldn't you have settled on a few time tested faves?

Well yeah last step or saiger rinse.

But it's being promoted as double strength.

Makes no sense.

Twice as concentrated is a better tagline.

It's still a 7 ph rinse

 

[Mikey P]

must be The New Standard.

 

[Hack Attack]

Well yeah last step or saiger rinse.

But it's being promoted as double strength.

Makes no sense.

Twice as concentrated is a better tagline.

It's still a 7 ph rinse

presumably it is double concentrated prior to recommended dilution, which would leave it as 7pH rinse..*


*Never ever used, or seriously looked into his product line

 

[Meter Maid]

If Les ever starts wearing a lab coat, then you’ll know it’s good.

 

[Jim Pemberton]

Judson 02 rinse is double the strength.

A 7 ph rinse new improved, but they basically made it more concentrated so it goes further.

It's not stronger surfactant wise?

It's a rinse I was hoping for a lower PH to neutralize ph.

I'm not speaking for Les Jones formulation, as I don't know anything about it.

Sam, is your goal to rinse or to neutralize?

Unless you are cleaning natural fibers, or you are using a "nuke" prespray, a product that helps to rinse and remove cleaning agent residues is good enough, even if neutral instead of acid.

Acid rinses are dual purpose: They should help to rinse and remove residues, as well as lower pH on the fiber to prevent damage to acid dyes (fading or bleeding), prevent cellulose browning, or to leave natural fibers soft.

But if you don't need those functions, a neutral pH rinse agent should do what you need.

You could do a pH test reading on the carpet yarns after cleaning to see how well each product is working for you.

 

[hogjowl]

Does he change chems as often as Mikey changes friends?

 

[Dolly Llama]

It's a rinse I was hoping for a lower PH to neutralize ph

why?

..L.T.A.

 

[hogjowl]

Cuz he hangs out here
With Matt

 

[SamIam]

I'm not speaking for Les Jones formulation, as I don't know anything about it.

Sam, is your goal to rinse or to neutralize?

Unless you are cleaning natural fibers, or you are using a "nuke" prespray, a product that helps to rinse and remove cleaning agent residues is good enough, even if neutral instead of acid.

Acid rinses are dual purpose: They should help to rinse and remove residues, as well as lower pH on the fiber to prevent damage to acid dyes (fading or bleeding), prevent cellulose browning, or to leave natural fibers soft.

But if you don't need those functions, a neutral pH rinse agent should do what you need.

You could do a pH test reading on the carpet yarns after cleaning to see how well each product is working for you.

Prochems old tagline still on most of their powdered detergents and emulsifiers.

Maximum cleaning minimum residue!


Then they started pushing 2 step cleaning uktrapac and all fiber rinse.

I believe your dad was in those

ads in the 90's.

Today they push Ups, and a powdered all fiber rinse.

I like an acid rinse for upholstery and rugs and neutralizing ph.

 

[Jim Pemberton]

My father was contracted for a period of time to be trainer for Prochem and had that process as a part of the presentation, yes.

I just cleaned my carpet at home today today with Ultrapac Extreme and All Fiber Rinse myself today.

In any event, if you do like the pH drop, an acid rinse is the way to go.

BUT it doesn’t have to be an acid to rinse, it just needs to be an acid to neutralize.

Two different functions.

 

[Mikey P]

I just cleaned my carpet at home today today with Ultrapac Extreme and All Fiber Rinse myself today.

Pretty much all I ever use...

 

[Cleanworks]

My father was contracted for a period of time to be trainer for Prochem and had that process as a part of the presentation, yes.

I just cleaned my carpet at home today today with Ultrapac Extreme and All Fiber Rinse myself today.

In any event, if you do like the pH drop, an acid rinse is the way to go.

BUT it doesn’t have to be an acid to rinse, it just needs to be an acid to neutralize.

Two different functions.

You should try prespraying with Procyon Extreme and rinsing with their Plus Powder.

 

[SamIam]

You should try prespraying with Procyon Extreme and rinsing with their Plus Powder.

I'm skerd it eats brass, but if I do need a detergent rinse I use Procyon plus

 

[Cleanworks]

I'm skerd it eats brass, but if I do need a detergent rinse I use Procyon plus

Doesn't eat brass anymore than any other alkaline cleaner.

 

[Jim Pemberton]

You should try prespraying with Procyon Extreme and rinsing with their Plus Powder.

I have tried them...and nearly everything else in the last (gulp) 50 years. *

No product endorsement intended, just letting Sam know I use a similar process for what it’s worth.

*If it matters, I was 13 when I graduated from emptying and filling portables and cleaning the rug plant floor to pulling a trigger on a cleaning tool....

 

[Meter Maid]

You should try prespraying with Procyon Extreme and rinsing with their Plus Powder.

Might want to try Green Dragon.

Same exact active ingredient and about half the price.

 

[SamIam]

Might want to try Green Dragon.

Same exact active ingredient and about half the price.

Except last time I ordered all they had was cinnamon, I mean fireball scent hahahah.

I prefer no scent on my green cleaner

 

[SamIam]

Video said double strength

 

[SamIam]

I asked the question more concentrated?

And Les confirmed that with his post.

So it goes twice as far as before.

The wording had me questioning the product.

Not the product itself.

 

[Meter Maid]

Except last time I ordered all they had was cinnamon, I mean fireball scent hahahah.

I prefer no scent on my green cleaner

You must be thinking something else, the product has never come in cinnamon to my knowledge. It comes in lemon or no scent. Always been that way.

 

[BIG WOOD]

Judson 02 rinse is double the strength.

A 7 ph rinse new improved, but they basically made it more concentrated so it goes further.

It's not stronger surfactant wise?

It's a rinse I was hoping for a lower PH to neutralize ph.

Geez! I tried pulling up his website looking for chemicals and I felt like I was back in 2001. Can't these guys get a decent site built? They're making plenty of money on these chemicals to spend a $few grand$ on an updated user friendly design. FKIN tightwads

 

[Mikey P]

Your Uncle Rod would be ashamed of you.

https://www.aramsco.com/chemicals/cleaning/carpet-rinses/prochem-extraction-rinse-all-fiber-rinse-5-gallons.html?/&utm_source=localiq&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=rlpmaxaramsco&gclid=Cj0KCQjw6cKiBhD5ARIsAKXUdyadrkkNcB2XT7tqiEUHmgZqR0XsFOVtlccOA_ESpDWkdwMEfi5HJTkaAg1sEALw_wcB

 

[SamIam]

You must be thinking something else, the product has never come in cinnamon to my knowledge. It comes in lemon or no scent. Always been that way.

What????

 

[SamIam]

I ordered the regular and he was out this was all he had at the time.

Probably a Xmas special formula.

Stay in your lane son

 

[SamIam]

Your Uncle Rod would be ashamed of you.

https://www.aramsco.com/chemicals/cleaning/carpet-rinses/prochem-extraction-rinse-all-fiber-rinse-5-gallons.html?/&utm_source=localiq&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=rlpmaxaramsco&gclid=Cj0KCQjw6cKiBhD5ARIsAKXUdyadrkkNcB2XT7tqiEUHmgZqR0XsFOVtlccOA_ESpDWkdwMEfi5HJTkaAg1sEALw_wcB

I mostly use last step, it has way less scent than most rinses, works great.

The smelliest rinse goes to pureforce great for deodorizing stinky tanks.

But your van will smell like it for weeks after use.

 

[FredC]

ask him what type of hammer he uses to get twice as much in the bottle

 

[Rick J]

I like to say I could have about 10 different degrees for all the $$ spent trying new juice.
And that us carpet cleaners are truly some of the biggest suckers on earth! LOL!
We just can't resist!!! LOL!
But, we need to use something, may as well try the juice de jour. !!

PC P, burst, with Dry slurry for me . ( but , still got a few promises on the shelf).

AS for rinse, I prefer PC deep clean over All Fiber Rinse. I was told, (may not be true of course LOL!) that is does have surfactants to help with flushing. But, my Interlink does not stock it and I am too cheap to get it elsewhere.

 

[SamIam]

ask him what type of hammer he uses to get twice as much in the bottle

Danger Ashley