Wand technique..

Mark Saiger

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I don't do triangles.

Me either

I have a couple grooming brushes :)

Also, even with high flow wands, I still do more than one pass (at least 2 passes) wet and also do dry passes.....just feel it takes more than one pass to rinse out soils and also our own cleaning agents with the suspended soils....

Dry passes needed to also lift out remaining soils that are not getting hit some more with spray/moisture....

Amount of time per rinse stroke, depending on soil level....

also I tend to key the wand (wet pass) on the forward stroke too a lot I find....
 

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I like the swing/swoop method, overlap by 1/3, releasing the trigger milliseconds before the swoop to prevent puddling :headbang:, if it's extremely soiled I may apply the trigger on the upward stroke... with the rotary, I swirl...never swing...I hate the triangle:angry:,and tech's that say OH the customers love it:bull:...and I always post groom in both directions leaving the carpet standing in the same direction.:icon_cool:
 
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Sometimes I push the wand slow, sometimes fast. I key the wand when im pulling back, but not forward. I go side to side. I dont care about making art, I groom when i'm done. The end
 
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We make triangle art, millions of carpet pizza slices but they are million of clean carpet pizza slices for everyone to enjoy!

We do long strokes only keyed on the back stroke unless in a problem area that needs a good flushing or Need to lay down more heat.

Return to starting point and dry stroke it all out.
 
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Soil level dictates wand speed

In "general" triggered back stroke
Forward dry stroke and just before the top, angle 1/2 to full wand width
(Contingent on soil level)
Then triggered back stroke to start the process over

In residential we add additional dry stroke back and foward

In "general" that's how we roll

Change ups would be triggered chop strokes on spots/areas prespray and wand didn't wash away

Rarely ever a forward wet stroke
All it does is make carpet wetter. ..not cleaner. ..adds nothing of value if you're using prespray in sufficient quantity

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The spraying on the forward stroke is the "Prespray" stoopids.

If you're the "non" pre-spraying, soap thru the wand outfit ...yep, then it's needed/of value
also a different type wand stroke is needed other than the steady/smooth triggered back stroke

you have to "wand saw" sq yrd sections of carpet with triggered wand , then dry stroke the area "hoping" the lumberjackhack recovered all the puddles they left soaking into the backing/ padding
It's why so many monkeybUtts have trouble with berbers and CGD....CAUSE DEY DON'T KNOW SHEEIT!!!!

don't mAke me jump on you and CHEW THRU YOUR JUGULAR VEIN


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I don't do triangles either-- triangles are proof that you did an uneven job.
If done correctly, there is no need to groom.
Slight correction-- only do triangles when using the Zipper,-- it's unaffodable.

I start the push with my legs and not my arms.

I tend to do twice as many dry strokes as wet strokes. The number of strokes will depend on the condition of the carpet.
 

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I don't do triangles either

perfectly aligned and straight/square to the world, short "flags" (what one of my guys from years past called them) at the top of wand strokes look cool....:cool::cool:

They have to straight, even and exactly the same though.......


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Have you ever watched your dry passes to prove or disprove this theory of needing more than one dry pass? I have, and found we are getting all of the soil laden moisture with a single dry pass.

You can watch it with a clear view 2" tube about 6' from the wand while you are extracting. I made one that goes inline 6' from the wand.

You will be surprised at what you see. Here's what you will see; the dirty water on the first pass, and no water on a second dry pass, so the one pass is all you need.

Now this is when cleaning with a wand. For you fancy guys with all those other cleaning tools, I couldn't respond cause all I have other than wands is an old RX-20 - the one with the horizontal motor and gearbox, which still works great btw.

I even have a vac relief wand cuff with a few holes drilled in it in strategic places for using on rugs where the wand is hard to push. I also use it on some carpet that wants to lock the wand down. By using this vac relief you are overcoming the inverse relationship between lift and CFM, as it keeps the moisture flowing and does not allow heavy lock down.

Had a job today where I used it and by the time we were leaving the carpet was just damp after being cleaned with a #6 flow (each wand) and a few wet passes because it was quite soiled, just to make sure we were not leaving the carpet too wet.

We also use the vac relief cuff when we are cleaning upholstery to reduce operator fatigue and to keep from stretching the fabric. It is usually dry by the time we leave, depending on soil condition and type of fabric.

Here's a short video with 250' of hose out:

 
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I use a innovative ahead of everyone's time...........thinking out of the box.......... so simple and effective........not over thinking ...........no kollege edumacation needed...........no need to attend a carpet cleaning advanced class............ no hours upon hours discussion amongst carpet cleaners. Here it is ( In certain situations depending upon soil load conditions, humidity levels, temperature and time)

As you push the wand forward..........you are vacuuming.............and with the wand valve spraying you are prespraying cleaning solution loosening the soil from the fiber. Then pause at the end and gently pull back and extract. Optional to keep spraying solution. Then push forward for your drying stroke.

See 4 steps in one! vacuum, prespray and extract , dry stroke.

I am a visionary.............. ahead of my time.

Some say I am a genius.
 
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Have you ever watched your dry passes to prove or disprove this theory of needing more than one dry pass? I have, and found we are getting all of the soil laden moisture with a single dry pass.

You can watch it with a clear view 2" tube about 6' from the wand while you are extracting. I made one that goes inline 6' from the wand.

You will be surprised at what you see.

I even have a vac relief wand cuff with a few holes cut in it in strategic places for using on rugs where the wand is hard to push. I also use it on some carpet that wants to lock the wand down. By using this vac relief you are overcoming the inverse relationship between lift and CFM, as it keeps the moisture flowing and does not allow heavy lock down.

Had a job today where I used it and by the time we were leaving the carpet was just damp after being cleaned with a #6 flow (each wand) and a few wet passes because it was quite soiled, just to make sure we were not leaving the carpet too wet.

We also use the vac relief cuff when we are cleaning upholstery to reduce operator fatigue.

Here's a short video:



Actually my typical dry pass is just one pass....

I do run 12 flow wands and Zippers at this time....but feel one dry pass has been working.

My glide ends are not sealed with goop either, so lock down is not really happening.

The Zipper still recovers a bit better though
 
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Wet stroke both directions. Three passes.
Go back. Followed by forward and backward dry passes.

Has nothing to do with adequate amount of pre-spray. That, pressure and speed of wand movement both on the wet & dry, is adjusted to soiling level, thickness and type of fiber.

And if you spray more pre-spray the carpet is going to get wetter anyhow, as most of them contain penetrating (wetting) agents, that will allow more water (as you rinse) to go in and penetrate deeper.

So far so good.
 
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