I can promise you that I know more about the inner workings of Hagopian than you do, Ofer. Ken has been a close friend of the family for the last 20 years or so... and has helped me in my business in more ways than I could count.
Able 1 said:NO SOAP, NO CHEMS!! Yet again.. :roll: I am not worried about them taking over here in the least, I just hate false ads, as we all should. There isn't even a Zerorez in my state. If it is just water, I should be able to test my tap water at a 12ph??
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Brian R said:There's still time to get away from a life sucking job like Zeero Rez carpet cleaning and make some real money selling energy and cell phone plans.
Act now and you too can live a life of success, happiness and be the envy of all who know about you.
Sell once....and reap the benefits for years to come as you get paid month after month....Year after year for as long as they pay their bill.
AND you don't have to suck up urine and feces all day....You just get to talk to people and show THEM the business.
A dream come true.
I find there are 2 types of people.
Those that grasp onto a good thing when they see it....And those who let opportunity pass them by.
Which one are you??
Clnthred said:Ok. Mike either you drink too much kool-aid or your the lead marketing director and you found this board in order to twist more of the so call client familiar vocabulary.
Nice thread. You should start this over at ***! Would love to see you help Rob understand how bad his cleaning is ruining clients flooring.
Thanks for helping us understand we all just suck! :mrgreen:
Mike@Zerorez said:Clnthred said:Ok. Mike either you drink too much kool-aid or your the lead marketing director and you found this board in order to twist more of the so call client familiar vocabulary.
Nice thread. You should start this over at ***! Would love to see you help Rob understand how bad his cleaning is ruining clients flooring.
Thanks for helping us understand we all just suck! :mrgreen:
Iv not once said that anyone sucks. I'm making statements and they keep getting twisted. Everyone wants to throw that accusation on me yet your the ones doing it. Funny how that works. Hypocrisy sucks, lay off it.
Ken Snow said:You worked for a SS location- there are good and bad in every business type, franchise or private owned. Your exp is sad if true, but does not reflect anything more than poss something about that operation.bdwa said:SS is a good company.. their problem is they have to high of a turn over rate and try to do to many jobs per day per van.
They have a in house certification very similar to the IICRC, high PH cleaner with a very powerful TM. All that goes out the window with loser, drug addicted techs.
I worked at SS for a couple of years and you all would be shocked at the things that went on..
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LisaWagnerCRS said:Zerorez are great marketers, and Poulos is a good salesman, so they are a good match. But... as with most national franchises, they are trying to get fast market penetration to then sell off and go away - so in 5 years from now Home Depot or whoever will own them, and they will lose market share and position just like Chemdry has (also very good marketers).
The zerorez guys in our area are good guys, and I've heard no "horror" stories. But they are also going out and getting more education because they are being fed only limited education... especially on rugs, which interestingly enough, with that high of a pH in the solution ends up causing damage to wool rugs, so we are getting good referrals as a result because they've stop advertising that they clean Persian rugs, and just refer them to companies who wash rugs instead.
Lisa
NobleCarpetCleaners said:I dunno, cause it's hard enough out in the field to hear my new customers freeking unload about their disappointment with ZeroService that to see it hear among the mostly sane cleaners makes it doubly painful. And please please noooooont get me wrong, I hear the same thing about 98% of the freeking cleaners out there not doing their GD job leaving a trail of destruction. I certainly don't want to zero out a magic water franchise, oh no no no, heaven forbid.
The shit I've heard from custys just the past 12 months from GD owner ops who either price hack and under deliver or the ridiculas high baller who leaves a worse trail of service destruction leaves me feeling just a weeeee bit intollerent.
Tell you what, I'll do a big industrial/business soul search and see if I need and attitude check. Maybe I'm intollerent of others to a fault. And hey, that's verrrrry possible..................
LmaoBrian R said:I just get tickled as hell when Lisa quotes me.
Next time we meet, will you at least ACT like you know who I am??
Vivers said:I'm going to jump in with my experience with zerorez. Our company has cleaned for this one lady a few times now, maybe 3 years now. To make a long story short, her sons friend went to work for zerorez and between them they somehow talked her into trying them. Well we are back cleaning for her as she was not happy at all with the results or the cost.
That being said, I am all for companies who charge a higher fee for our services, market are services to the public, etc... I don't know about your area, but mine here in Southern California I hardly ever see there vans on the road?
I also know for a fact that they are not going to be able to clean up really dirty carpets with there magic water alone. We all know you need an enzyme pre treat, boosted with citrus solv, agitate and dwell time. I know all about heat and vac. We run Apex machines with dual heat exchangers and 4 to the door setup for vac. It basically does not get any hotter or stronger vac then we run for residential setup.
I do love the fight/ love the young man has for his company/ employer though. Wish all employees had this kind of heart and drive. He will own his own company some day it sounds like. It won't be with magic water though I betcha!
danielc said:Vivers said:I'm going to jump in with my experience with zerorez. Our company has cleaned for this one lady a few times now, maybe 3 years now. To make a long story short, her sons friend went to work for zerorez and between them they somehow talked her into trying them. Well we are back cleaning for her as she was not happy at all with the results or the cost.
That being said, I am all for companies who charge a higher fee for our services, market are services to the public, etc... I don't know about your area, but mine here in Southern California I hardly ever see there vans on the road?
I also know for a fact that they are not going to be able to clean up really dirty carpets with there magic water alone. We all know you need an enzyme pre treat, boosted with citrus solv, agitate and dwell time. I know all about heat and vac. We run Apex machines with dual heat exchangers and 4 to the door setup for vac. It basically does not get any hotter or stronger vac then we run for residential setup.
I do love the fight/ love the young man has for his company/ employer though. Wish all employees had this kind of heart and drive. He will own his own company some day it sounds like. It won't be with magic water though I betcha!
To sum this post up the lady feels she can get the same service elsewhere (your company) a little cheaper.
It's all about price with her.