dgardner
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That's interesting - Rick said earlier:
Maybe you're allowed to set it higher? I dunno.....
What have we got here?... 2015 Sapphire Pro 1200 unveiled..
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That's interesting - Rick said earlier:
Maybe you're allowed to set it higher? I dunno.....
Noise would be a big detractor for me.. The DD I have worked on have that blower noise that I just can't handle.. That consistent whine would make me go insane!
If I brought one I would set it at 15 and think nothing of it.. All my Prochems are set at 15.
If I brought one I would set it at 15 and think nothing of it.. All my Prochems are set at 15.
Ray Burnfield
Supportive Member
hogjowl
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The new Pro-1200 SE was reengineered to deliver these breakthrough benefits:
The hottest van-powered direct-drive truckmount combines two engine coolant heat exchangers with Sapphire Scientific’s exclusive fin-tubed coil blower exhaust heat exchanger. This delivers continuous cleaning of 220+ degrees – no need to spend extra money on additional heat options.
Superior, quieter vacuum performancewith 408 HeliFlow helical vacuum blower. Vacuum at 13 in. and flows up to 455 CFM.
The hottest van-powered direct-drive truckmount combines two engine coolant heat exchangers with Sapphire Scientific’s exclusive fin-tubed coil blower exhaust heat exchanger. This delivers continuous cleaning of 220+ degrees – no need to spend extra money on additional heat options.
Superior, quieter vacuum performancewith 408 HeliFlow helical vacuum blower. Vacuum at 13 in. and flows up to 455 CFM.
Ray Burnfield
Supportive Member
Yep
Lee Stockwell
FOJL
Somebody have data on the relative sound level, in dB at various distances from the machine?
Ray Burnfield
Supportive Member
They can make the claim if it's quieter than the current Pro-1200
dealtimeman
Everyday is Saturday.
i have some super scientific IPHONE APP DBA METER readings i took at about 5 feet from both the hydramaster cds and the pro 1200.
both read near the same at 94-95 db max, again keep in mind this was super PROFESSIONAL AND DONE WITH MY IPHONE.
both read near the same at 94-95 db max, again keep in mind this was super PROFESSIONAL AND DONE WITH MY IPHONE.
Steve Lawrence
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dgardner
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Sound decreases with distance according to the inverse square law, which means you get approximately 6dB drop in sound level every time you double the distance. So if the initial reading is 95 dB at 5 feet, as you move away you would get:
10 ft - 91dB
20 ft - 85dB
40 ft - 79 dB
etc.
A normal conversation is about 65dB at 3 feet for comparison.
This rule only applies if there are no obstructions to reflect the sound (i.e. an open field). So if you park on the street and walk towards a house the sound would be louder than the prediction due to sound reverberating off the walls.
Nate The Great
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JS41035
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I think the point is that with the pro1200 you start off with the large blower and higher heat blower heat exchangers. Butlers base model is a 45 blower. You pay more for the 47 and then you pay more for the high heat. Of course a lot of people get the 45 blower with only engine heat exchangers. So who knows. But I'd assume most would get the Max vac and Max heat options if it didn't cost a few grand more.
Mikey P
Administrator
I can't wait to watch Lee pick apart the new 1200 at MFE..
how big is that coin purse of his..?
how big is that coin purse of his..?
Mikey P
Administrator
We'll miss you Jeremy..
J
JS41035
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Yeah bummed. But it worked out.
When Mom was super ticked she would get our names wrong. If she said all my brothers names first and then got your middle name right......you might as well just go find a belt.
Hopefully he will take it easy on them.God help em if they misspelled anything. I'm going to St Louis on May 14 to check out the new pro 1200.
When Mom was super ticked she would get our names wrong. If she said all my brothers names first and then got your middle name right......you might as well just go find a belt.
Hopefully he will take it easy on them.God help em if they misspelled anything. I'm going to St Louis on May 14 to check out the new pro 1200.
Lee Stockwell
FOJL
You told me the 12th....
J
JS41035
Guest
Just wanted you to be on time
Larry Cobb
Member
Why would ANY modern TM manufacturer set a new vacuum system to 13" ??
A few days ago, we tested a direct drive #47 blower on the carpet with both 13" and 16" of lift at the truck.
At 13" the Airflow thru the wand was 17.5% less than that @ 16" . . .
http://mikeysboard.com/forum/index.php?threads/actual-cfm-testing-w-single-dual-wands.278273/
FredC
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Single wand?
What was the difference in appearance and dry times when you finished cleaning the carpet?
Mikey P
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17.5 % less impressive no doubt.
Ray Burnfield
Supportive Member
So the carpet takes how much longer to dry?
Larry Cobb
Member
Dual Wand . . . The testing was measured at the 14" x 2" wand with 100ft of 2" hose while
12" x 1.5" wand with another 100' of 2" hose was also connected.
CFM was 200 @16" hg vs
CFM was 165 @13" hg .
Not much doubt which one had the best recovery !!
Ray Burnfield
Supportive Member
How did it do with 100' 2 1/2 and 100' of 2" followed by a 15' whip?
Does it really matter?
Does the carpet get cleaned and dry in a reasonable amount of time?
Does it really matter?
Does the carpet get cleaned and dry in a reasonable amount of time?
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dealtimeman
Everyday is Saturday.
Obviously it took 17.5 percent longer to dry as it recovered 17.5 percent less water? Maybe? Am I close?
Russ T.
Supportive Member
...and how much harder on your equipment is it to get that 17% airflow?
Russ T.
Supportive Member
Yeah, there's that....
Mikey P
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17.5 months?
