ruff
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If only we could all be Richard Chavez:
BONZER IS COMING
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Desk Jockey
Member
I got 5 hours of sleep Monday Tuesday, last night 3 hours. Tonight I don't think I will, I have a red eye flight. 
Mikey P
Administrator
Look close and you'll see that the Bonzer was clearly made to have wheels installed.
Once attached it will be work exactly like a Zipper.
Not sure why it was shown without them to be honest.
Two hands are needed, hole glides must be used front and back, downward weight pressure from your arms is needed on most carpet to keep it from skipping.
Let the legal battles begin.
Once attached it will be work exactly like a Zipper.
Not sure why it was shown without them to be honest.
Two hands are needed, hole glides must be used front and back, downward weight pressure from your arms is needed on most carpet to keep it from skipping.
Let the legal battles begin.
Desk Jockey
Member
Oh man was it a blantant knock off! 
I'm no attorney, but I can be a jerk and I own a suit so I think we have a lot in common.
I don't know how you do this without being concerned about patent infringement. ????
Whuta dickhead move! Oh how I miss the good old days when you could fook someone up with little thought of reprocussions.
I'm no attorney, but I can be a jerk and I own a suit so I think we have a lot in common.
I don't know how you do this without being concerned about patent infringement. ????
Whuta dickhead move! Oh how I miss the good old days when you could fook someone up with little thought of reprocussions.
Desk Jockey
Member
That's NOT what "she" said. 
I agree Jimmy it had a tiny footprint. Made little sense but for the small minded or those with portables....same group.
I agree Jimmy it had a tiny footprint. Made little sense but for the small minded or those with portables....same group.
Mikey P
Administrator
The BonZZer will be next if the project prevails.
Interesting..
Do you think Mytee or Tony Dang would be getting more or less heat over this?
Interesting..
Do you think Mytee or Tony Dang would be getting more or less heat over this?
Of course he didn't get it right. There was no previous design he could copy. I highly doubt he could engineer it originally
Cleanworks
Moderator
Dang it!
Doug Rice
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I wonder if there are any improvements coming with the CX-15, like backward & forward cleaning?
Desk Jockey
Member
Now you sound like Cobb saying there is nothing special about Tom Conway's swivel because he had a machine shop make it. I guess those Texas boys only like things built with JB weld.
Cleanworks
Moderator
Does anybody remember the Steamway Zinger? It was similar to the cx15 but much heavier and had wheels. Worked on the same principle as the turbo spinner but I believe it only had 1 vacuum slot. Take that machine and put 2 vacuum slots with glides and it would be very close to Erik's spinner 7ipper
Lee Stockwell
FOJL
Yes, made by Windsor. Motor spun the jets INTO the impact.
Cleanworks
Moderator
Lee, it's been a long time since I've seen a Zinger but we had one company out here who swore by it, of course he was using it with a Powermatic with a kero burner. I gather from what you say, it used an electric motor to spin the spray bar so that the spray was being directed into the carpet, opposite the way these new spinners that are powered by just the pump pressure. Is that right?
Mikey P
Administrator
CalTool's attempt at a Zipper alternative
Desk Jockey
Member
LOL
That's hilarious! Once again designed by a non-cleaner or one that shouldn't be.
That's hilarious! Once again designed by a non-cleaner or one that shouldn't be.
Lee Stockwell
FOJL
Yes
Cleanworks
Moderator
What was, now is again. Actually, there is a Zinger for sale locally. I think I'll take a look at it and see if it's worth anything.
Desk Jockey
Member
Jimmy I have the new designed Interlink drag wand I'll sell you. Come down try it out and you can buy it if you like it. You can also try out a Zipper while you're here.
Oh no ...that interlink one is crap.
Much prefer that white magic one with the wheels.
Much prefer that white magic one with the wheels.
Desk Jockey
Member
I liked it but the Zipper is just constructed far better. Plus you clean in both directions.
John Olson
Member
Everybody has copied someone else even Eric.your all mad because you like Eric. He choose to not sell through distributors his choice. Rotovac will out sell him because they do sell through and support distributors. Big bank take little bank. Happens all the time and EVRYONE does it. At least Rotovac is making it here.
p.s. If Erik had been working with distributors he might of had enough money to fight this.
P.S.S if your not selling a Million of something a patent only makes the lawyers money
p.s. If Erik had been working with distributors he might of had enough money to fight this.
P.S.S if your not selling a Million of something a patent only makes the lawyers money
Desk Jockey
Member
I planned to buy a 360i to put on one of the carpet trucks but now I have paused that and I may just buy one of the Zipper spinners.
Pretty disappointed in Rotovac.
Pretty disappointed in Rotovac.
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John, I have never copied anything from anyone. We do allow some distributors to sell our product. If you think it is okay to copy someone else's design that they put their heart and soul into that just goes to show your true moral character. If you would like to test the waters, offer the Bonzer for sale in your store.
Bill Soukoreff
Member
Well said Eric!
There is rising tide of new independant craftsman emerging in N. America in every business segment. There will always be the Walmarts and Rotovacs, but people like Eric will do well for the growing number that are tired of copy cats and poor quality. Eric, I can't wait to get my hands on your new upholstery tool. Hope your still going to carry on with it.
Anyone who cares should read: The Big Swindle. It could be updated but still relevant. The revolution is still going strong.
John Olson
Member
That's not what I said at all and you absolutely copied others design by using a valve and jets and glides and check valves etc etc etc. you used what some else made correct? You also copied the drag wand concept and improved on it. That's fact. There is nothing wrong with it and it wasnt an attack And I stand by what I said about people being upset because it is you. No one is upset that sapphire copied the Prochem wand are they? How about tony dang copying Tom and everyone else? How about all the folks here buying glides from JB or his RC99? That's what I said. As for my moral character I've proven time and again who I am, my standing on all of this is easy to research and I'll forgive your attempt At calling it into question as what you think you read isn't at all what I said. As for distributors it wasn't an attack on you it is a fact that may come to hurt you. You choose to sell direct therefore your sales are no where near where they would be selling to most of the market instead of just the message board/internet/show junkies which would put more money into the coffers to pay the legal bills to defend your patent. Not a knock on you just math. Now as for selling the bonzer I don't see it selling. Your tool has a limited market and the bonzer even smaller but make no mistake lots and lots of distributors that have had their customers buy zippers direct from you will absolutely sell the hell out of them. It most likely won't be me unless someone is going to buy from someone else unless they get it from me but I will absolutely suggest they save the money and buy yours you shouldn't even have to question that you do know me better then that even if we butt heads most of the time it isn't because I don't like you or your tool and you know that or at least you should and you should also know I would never ever do anything to harm you or your buisness. Hope that clears up what you thought I was saying.
Lee Stockwell
FOJL
The old guy in the grey shirt still kicking out spots ...me.
