Blue Monarch
Supportive Member
Been using a detector for a few years. Wind in wrong direction and custy opening window on other end of house can cause a problem situation.
I'm sorry billy. I strongly disagree! CO is a heavy gas. And with most tms that gas is forced out the front of the machine. Co levels could be fairly low near the van. But extreamly high is the lower parts of a home. I'd also wonder. With sucking large volumes of air out of a house while cleaning, well that air gets replaced. If a guy sets up wrong. He is just sucking co into the house.
To me, it looks like he took out the 175 pad driver and mop bucket to make room for a small heater.
I would say he was using a truckmount with fresh water tank, If it was an ETM- I would think he would use house power, and it wasn't a portable, most guys don't have hose reels and shelves with a portable.
From the pic, you can see the grey 2" hose and grey pressure line on the ground
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Your gunna die cleaning. Not leaving a job. I've never heard of a cleaner having issues in he truck. But time and time again. Cleaner passes out while at the wand.
I'd rather have some alert while wanding. So much cfm blows out the front of my machines carbon build up is zero concern in the vehicle. Once the machine is shut down. Side and rear doors open, any co will sink out.
Wanding away he would be dead before he heard or saw an alert at or near the truck.
The main point is. It is just plain stupid to park in an I enclosed space. Even with the garage door open.
Again with Garage Closed The CO filled the Garage & Van most likely, although from pics I haven't been able to completely determine what machine he was using portable or Truck Mount. If it was a portable with genset, based on the cord running in the rear doors it could have easily been placed outside the garage door. I have never run any setup with a genset though so I may be missing something. The witness said the house smelled like exhaust when he entered, if I remember correct so it was everywhere most likely until aired out. By your analogy you are saying it was below safe levels the entire time it was filling the garage & house which if that is true a CO Detector in the van would have never alerted him.
Now with that said I wouldn't have volunteered to stay in the van for any length of time based on your assumption. Now your analogy does make more sense with a slide in running from the doors out in the open. In the past when I have had no choice where to hook up I have used air movement to keep the inside areas safe along with detectors
I just spent a whole 21.00 on an extra CO detector so if it never does anything I didn't lose much. But the truck one has let me know if CO rises inside the box while running which has been well worth the cost.
I could never figure out why TMs do not have emission standards such as vehicles have. The raw pollution TMs produce is horrendous .
You wouldn't know.
TM engines have always met EPA carb standards for pollution. The "raw pollution" comment is BS.
Mardie this conversation has been focused on Carbon Monoxide, a combustion byproduct of all hydrocarbon fuel use.
Park your Prius running in an enclosed garage and the result will be just as certain and deadly as any gas engine.
But not the same level of standards as vehicles . Your gas lawn mower is also EPA compliant. But yet they produce a horrendous amount of raw pollution. Is that ok NO!
So you use an electric lawn mower?
Ok billy. Besides adding a co detector to your box. You say you no longer have issues. But did. So what other steps have you taken?
Then I guess you should be using an electric TM. I have never seen a catalytic converter on any TM. Or do they come in the invisible kind. Why do you not acknowledge the low level pollution controls on TMs ?
Then I guess you should be using an electric TM. I have never seen a catalytic converter on any TM. Or do they come in the invisible kind. Why do you not acknowledge the low level pollution controls on TMs ?
Then I guess you should be using an electric TM. I have never seen a catalytic converter on any TM. Or do they come in the invisible kind. Why do you not acknowledge the low level pollution controls on TMs ?
My 405 has one.
You didn't answer my question Mardie, so I take that as an admission you DON'T have an electric mower.
By the way, if I may waste a little more effort trying to educate you, my gas 405's DO have catalytic converters...imagine that. Just like other Nissans. For at least the last decade.
You didn't answer my question Mardie, so I take that as an admission you DON'T have an electric mower.
I could never figure out why TMs do not have emission standards such as vehicles have. The raw pollution TMs produce is horrendous .