John Olson
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I can't wait to install a machine I the new doge vans. Those things look like the best van EVER. Thinking about buying one for a delivery/demo van. Need to see when they will have a fuel kit for them.
New dodge vans...bad ass!
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Dolly Llama
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"looks"???
donno about drivetrain , handling and/or payload improvements
but it looks just as fugly as it ever has.....
..L.T.A.
encapman
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encapman
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For my money I'd go with the new Ford Transit before considering the Dodge.
http://www.newcartestdrive.com/sneakpreview.cfm?ReviewID=441
Each of these vans (Transit & Fiat) has had a long history in Europe.
But the Ford van has a better reputation over there.
http://www.newcartestdrive.com/sneakpreview.cfm?ReviewID=441
Each of these vans (Transit & Fiat) has had a long history in Europe.
But the Ford van has a better reputation over there.
Lee Stockwell
FOJL
Side by side the Promaster seemed MUCH better that the Sprinter. Nicer looking too.
I could stand with several inches to spare, yet it is not much taller than my E 350.
I could stand with several inches to spare, yet it is not much taller than my E 350.
encapman
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An Italian friend told me that the Italian's have a saying about Italian cars...
Italian cars are like Italian women.
They're beautiful when they're young.
But when they get old, you leave them on the side of the road.
Italian cars are like Italian women.
They're beautiful when they're young.
But when they get old, you leave them on the side of the road.
Why can't you fab yore own fuel kit? It's just an elbow inside a pipe.
I had my van fuel tank off a few weeks ago to replace a fuel pump. While I was at it, I extended the machine fuel pickup to the bottom of the tank so I don't need to fill up as often. I'm not skeert of running out of van fuel; I can read a fuel gage. It's really nice to not need to fill up every time the tank level gets to one-half full because the machine stops drawing at one-quarter.
I had my van fuel tank off a few weeks ago to replace a fuel pump. While I was at it, I extended the machine fuel pickup to the bottom of the tank so I don't need to fill up as often. I'm not skeert of running out of van fuel; I can read a fuel gage. It's really nice to not need to fill up every time the tank level gets to one-half full because the machine stops drawing at one-quarter.
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Torrey Express
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Makes me want to buy a couple new Chevy expresses before this country only builds these euro trash buses...
I'd have to let the dust settle on these dodges before is buy a first run model.
I'd have to let the dust settle on these dodges before is buy a first run model.
Lee Stockwell
FOJL
Zee
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Ford transits -historically speaking- were a joke even compared to the older boxier Ducatos.
I do have some experience with those vans. (living 22years in Europe helps)
The Ram Promaster is NOT a Fiat van. It is based on the Fiat Ducati and the outside is the Fiat but underneath is where its different.
John Olson
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because I don't have the money to pay the EPA all the fines that would entail nor the money to pay everyone when a jack ass rolls his vans and kills everyone around him in a ball of fire because of an illegal fuel tap. That EPA sticker and release of liability that comes with a transfer flow fuel kit is priceless but your welcome to do/take whatever risks you want.
Torrey Express
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ruff
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Years ago (could be that it is not relevant to current vans) the Transit used to be underpowered and not considered to be very durable or reliable.
However that was a while ago.
However that was a while ago.
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Becker
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Blahhh.. Not excited.
Jack May
That Kiwi
I thought the US Dodge vans were the Mercedes Benz Sprinters?
Now they're selling the Fiat ducato's... under the same branding and model types.
Seems a stupid move to me.
John
Now they're selling the Fiat ducato's... under the same branding and model types.
Seems a stupid move to me.
John
Lee Stockwell
FOJL
Mercedes Benz controlled Chrysler for a few years, then sold out at a big loss. When that ended about 5 years ago Chrysler lost access to the Sprinter.
Fiat bought control of Chrysler after bankruptcy, thus the new van connection.
Zee
Supportive Member
Yup.
Daimler and Chrysler are not rolling together anymore.
Fiat is the Chrysler savior for now.. they are putting fiat engines in chrysler some cars. (like the Dart)
juniorc82
Supportive Member
kind of a disappointment. All these motor companies are switching to the high top euro style vans. For the broke dick owner op you cant get those things to fit into a standard size garage. I rent warehouse space where my other equipment, econoline ,and minivan stay but it is nice to be able to take the van home after a late night job or whatever and put it in the garage. There are several chuck and a truck contractors who I have also heard voice this same concern. High top just not for me until I can afford to build a shop or pole barn
Becker
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Yes thinking I might buy 2 rather than one additional new or slightly used van in 2014.......
I had the same concern but the height I saw for the standard roof Transit is 83 inches, so still good for a 7' standard garage door.
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JS41035
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I heard the new dodge vans are kinda hard to get out of once your past 60. 
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Mikey P
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I heard the new dodge vans are kinda hard to get out of once your past 60.
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still waiting for that video
AS long as they dont dick around with a known commodity like the RAM TRUCKS, with the CUMMINS...its all good
quote below....PLUS a lot of the newer homes...
google this address 500 S 1425 W, Layton, UT and then use the street view to look up and down the streets....this subdivison is about 3 yrs old....
The Great Oz
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The Dodge would look better if they moved the headlights down into that giant hunk of plastic that makes up the entire front.
All of the "Euro" vans are modified for use in the US. They may be wider versions of the longest wheelbase, have heavier brakes and transmissions and different engines. The Ford and Dodge both have US-only V-6 engines that get pretty good reviews in their other uses, so comparing "our" version of these vans to their Euro cousins might not be that simple.
I'm with Torrey on letting others be the early adopters. The first Sprinters went through brakes so fast you had to keep a spare set handy, and anyone remember the Ford/Harverster LCF of only a couple years ago? Gone in a cloud of litigation over the poor reliability of the Ford-built diesel engines.
PS: Jeep is the only part of Chrysler that survived the Mercedes years intact. The Jeep guys just refused to do anything Mercedes wanted.
All of the "Euro" vans are modified for use in the US. They may be wider versions of the longest wheelbase, have heavier brakes and transmissions and different engines. The Ford and Dodge both have US-only V-6 engines that get pretty good reviews in their other uses, so comparing "our" version of these vans to their Euro cousins might not be that simple.
I'm with Torrey on letting others be the early adopters. The first Sprinters went through brakes so fast you had to keep a spare set handy, and anyone remember the Ford/Harverster LCF of only a couple years ago? Gone in a cloud of litigation over the poor reliability of the Ford-built diesel engines.
Turns out that Chrysler is actually saving Fiat, as Chrysler profits are offsetting Fiat losses in Europe. Mercedes was a rapist interested only in stealing technology, the Cerberus Group penny pinchers that killed product quality. Now that actual car guys run the company Chrysler seems to be doing pretty well.
PS: Jeep is the only part of Chrysler that survived the Mercedes years intact. The Jeep guys just refused to do anything Mercedes wanted.
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Desk Jockey
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We love ours.....so far its been a great truck. Time to dump it?
Shawn Forsythe
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Isn't it frustrating that just when and since they started making this an option, they then and still only address those not needing a return? Ugg!
