Zee
Supportive Member
I would not mind paying a little more if Erik would build them for us normal size folks.
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Desk Jockey
Member
Fookin freaks...umm present company excluded of course, 
There are several tall cleaners on the board. It might be worth asking him about.
There are several tall cleaners on the board. It might be worth asking him about.
Zee
Supportive Member
In my opinion ALL wands and tools should be customizable for the user's height. Especially the tool where the shaft is NOT part of the extraction tube.
Manufacturers should sell small 4-6 inches long pieces of the same material and the user could just pop it in as many as he wants. The same way as a power stretcher connects. (but obviously just with the short pieces)
The solution line could be longer already to accept the different length (same way as a Rotovac 360 XL solution line)
Manufacturers should sell small 4-6 inches long pieces of the same material and the user could just pop it in as many as he wants. The same way as a power stretcher connects. (but obviously just with the short pieces)
The solution line could be longer already to accept the different length (same way as a Rotovac 360 XL solution line)
Mark Saiger
Mr Happy!
My son in law is like 6 foot 3 inchs....no problem with the Zipper for him....
He just learned where the sweet spot is and runs with it....
He's like the poster child for Zipper wands.....
He just learned where the sweet spot is and runs with it....
He's like the poster child for Zipper wands.....
hogjowl
Idiot™
No, YOU'RE the poster child for Zipper wands (and everything else) on the boards. He's just afraid not to be happy.
Mark Saiger
Mr Happy!
GeneMiller
Member
Marty I had the 13" for over a year before I ordered the 15". I wanted the bigger one for commercial so we were both running zippers. I never intended to use it on residential. The 13" almost never comes out now as Cody always grabs the bigger one even for residential.
Gene
Same here
I bought the 13 first then ordered a 15 and I hardly ever use the 13. I would suggest the larger one.
I bought the 13 first then ordered a 15 and I hardly ever use the 13. I would suggest the larger one.
ruff
Member
I am sure Eric can figure it out and once he does it will be the same top notch quality.
It will boil down to: Is the investment and the hassle worth the financial return?
Maybe the hormonal imbalanced group can stop their sniffling (
), band together and make a group purchase large enough to justify Eric's investment.
Zee
Supportive Member
Another one..... That doesn't understand that you don't compare the Zipper (or any other wand) to a rotary extractor....
They do different things and shine in different circumstances.
ruff
Member
- It is a top notch tool that will last forever.
- It saves a lot of time in open large spaces.
- It leaves the carpet very dry, more then any other tool, even when using very high flow.
- Super easy to move, particularly if you clean (and extract) using only forward motion (very possible and easy).
- Worth every penny.
I've purchased many tools and later felt like an idiot paying for them. Not the Zipper.
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Zee
Supportive Member
The same way you don't compare a 2000 dollar necklace and a 2000 dollar wedding ring.... Both could be made out of the same precious metals and could have equal amounts of precious stones on them....but I want to see how your wedding ring fits and performs on your neck and vice versa the necklace on your finger.
They do perform the same function right? They both are jewelry... They both are to make one feel more pretty or feel whatever. You got my point.
I normally avoid hair-splitting, but in this case since you invoked an ad-hom in your first post, I will respond.
While both pieces of jewelry are, in general, used as adorning ornaments, the fact is the two you allude to in your analogy adorn two separate parts of the body. Not analogous here though because the two pieces of equipment we are actually discussing are used in the same fashion and perform the exact same function in the exact same scenarios. Because one rotates with a motor and the other doesn't makes zero difference as to their exact purpose.
Get my point?
Zee
Supportive Member
You took that as an ad-hom....?
I see you're fairly new here...apologies. You'll get used to it.
The two carpet cleaning "jewelry" are also being used in different parts of the "body"
A lot of times a rotary is useless on CGD because of "bouncyness" and chatter whereas a wand or Zipper would be ok.
Anyways.... Having cleaned tens of thousands of sqft with a Zipper and even more with rotaries (Rx20,Hoss, RV XL) I still say, they're not comparable even if it's possible to used them on the same carpets.
I see you're fairly new here...apologies. You'll get used to it.
The two carpet cleaning "jewelry" are also being used in different parts of the "body"
A lot of times a rotary is useless on CGD because of "bouncyness" and chatter whereas a wand or Zipper would be ok.
Anyways.... Having cleaned tens of thousands of sqft with a Zipper and even more with rotaries (Rx20,Hoss, RV XL) I still say, they're not comparable even if it's possible to used them on the same carpets.
ruff
Member
This, however, was an answer to your question:
Seems like the answer may not be quite what you're interested in.
What will make your day, Bob?
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And, so, what is it you're looking to me for? Acknowledgement? Recognition? Validation?
You responded and I read your response. I don't need to agree or disagree.
BTW, what is it you're inferring, that I'm trolling?
Rotories work just fine on CGD, just slow it down, that's all.
I'm certain you're quite happy with your Zipper. Be it far from me to accuse you of anything else.
I asked a simple question in relation to my business, that's all.
ruff
Member
Why, all of the above.
Not necessarily in alphabetical order though.
Well, you got the first two out of me, the third I'm afraid I can't help you with.
ruff
Member
Back to the subject at hand.
You may want to try it particularly if you do large open spaces and long hallways (in my opinion that's when it is at its best, though there are quite a few here that use it in homes. I didn't like it in small spaces).
Maybe there's a member here in your area that you can borrow it from and decide through personal experience if it works for you or not.
Like many other tools, many times it also boils down to personal preferences.
You may want to try it particularly if you do large open spaces and long hallways (in my opinion that's when it is at its best, though there are quite a few here that use it in homes. I didn't like it in small spaces).
Maybe there's a member here in your area that you can borrow it from and decide through personal experience if it works for you or not.
Like many other tools, many times it also boils down to personal preferences.
dgardner
Moderator
The only major impediment I see to making different handles (or handle extensions) is the internal routing of the solution hose. Erik might have to stock a few different lengths or change the way the hose is routed (or maybe create a hose extension). I imagine the extension(s) would be attached at the bottom of the handle to preserve the grip/valve lever location.
Zee
Supportive Member
Just two weeks ago on a 3600 sqft CGD....we tried running a RV XL...Impossible. We could not hold it in place it was bouncing so much. Doesn't matter how fast or slow we try. So we ended up wanding it and padding it with Orbot.
Mikey P
Administrator
Much much faster
Dries way faster
But does not clean as well as your RE.
But twice as good as your wand.
I resisted too...
Dries way faster
But does not clean as well as your RE.
But twice as good as your wand.
I resisted too...
Steve Lawrence
Member
For those wanting more info on the Zipper and some cool videos go to Erik's Zipper site:
http://www.zipperwand.com
Also, a search on this site should produce some other good Zipper videos by Mark Saiger.
http://www.zipperwand.com
Also, a search on this site should produce some other good Zipper videos by Mark Saiger.
Mark Saiger
Mr Happy!
Just want to say, I have all the mentioned above tools... And I carry most of all of them on my van.... (there's even probably a video of that on here and my YouTube)
Not a "one horse pony show" you could say.... BUT...
We probably use the Zipper (and we have 1 on each van) 80% of the time. We do mainly residential, but also a good share of commercial.
As has been mentioned, the Zipper is hands down faster... Gets it drier, and for us, our go too Favorite tool...
We have the larger ones also....
Here is my YouTube channel Zipper playlist
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLg45027waKT-BW4GqIEAj4Vvhcv07fZuk
And also my YouTube channel... You will see, we clean with a lot of different tools too
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCi9UefjEixJPGgxWPTnEUhg
Also, my Facebook pages with lots of pics to show you what we are about and what we are doing and using.
https://www.facebook.com/Saigers
https://www.facebook.com/mark.saiger
Hopefully, this might give you some ideas why we love the Zipper.
Also as mentioned, I think everyone who owns one would be more than happy to let you come try one.
I have an open invitation to anyone to come over and ride along with us and or meet us so we can let you try it all.
Looking forward to maybe answering any other questions you might have as well
Mikey P
Administrator
GeneMiller
Member
Bob this probably won't help but the reason I bought the zipper was to replace my wand. I still have and use my rotary but only on about 10 percent of my jobs. I was a wand user like most for over 20 years. It tends to be hard on the body. The zipper not only cleans better but my body feels much better at the end of the day. I'm on my 5 or 6 th new helper since I got it and I always train them on both. Not one of them grabs the wand.
I tend to think long term when buying equipment instead of focusing on the short term price. My body is stronger and healthier using the zipper and that's priceless.
Gene
I tend to think long term when buying equipment instead of focusing on the short term price. My body is stronger and healthier using the zipper and that's priceless.
Gene
