Human urine with cranberry juice and medication in it

[BIG WOOD]

If you weren’t sure of the fiber...then spraying a low ph acid rinse over it first would’ve been my first try before using any peroxide or red treatment.

Is there a reason you didn’t try that?

 

[Mikey P]

I bet it's been over ten years since I've used heat to attempt stain removal

 

[Mikey P]

If you weren’t sure of the fiber...then spraying a low ph acid rinse over it first would’ve been my first try before using any peroxide or red treatment.

Is there a reason you didn’t try that?

I was sure it wasn't wool, and no acid rinse is going to touch a stain like that.

 

[Hack Attack]

Acid rinse isnt a stain remover its a pH correction

Good thing i see this now, cause ill say that there is no guarantee to remove it. And any cleaning procedure that remove the stain WILL damage the color or carpet or both.

just have them sign a waiver, you aren't responsible for the original stain and cannot guarantee the outcome although following best practice etc etc

 

[Cleanworks]

Could it be smartstrand silk?

 

[D Luke]

This is after just water rinsing to remove as much pee pee as possible

To be honest I'm not sure wtf the fiber is, it's one of those that gets very dark when wet and the wand really grabs. You'd think it was wool, but it has that oily feel and no wet hair odor..

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That told you all you needed to know and jibes with your following results. If a proper water rinse yielded absolutely 0% improvement...

 

[Mikey P]

Could it be smartstrand silk?

Yep

 

[DAT]

So I tried the RedX it, which says on the bottle to use heat and almost instantly the carpet turned snow white.

When i initially bought that, i read somewhere i think Facebook to use it first with out heat and let it dwell for 10 to 15 min and then rinse. Almost never need to use heat because of it aggressiveness. That's how i have approached it ever since, and it works.

But i dont think ive encounter that situation yet with anzo, that looks rough.

 

[Mikey P]

Here in the land of Polyester, yes, most of these dye removers work with dwell time..

 

[Cleanworks]

I have not used heat in years. That stain is pretty bright, not a normal urine stain. I have had more success with OSR products than with 40 volume. Dwell time is the key. I doubt if it would work on that stain but I leave a 2 part oxidizer on and just let it evaporate. Usually takes about 4 hours to work. Very difficult to get something to work immediately without doing damage.

 

[Mikey P]

I'm beggining to think the jobs are plants from the IICRC BOD to discredit my good name and keep me out...

 

[FredC]

Well if they were testing your patience you failed.

Redzone and a little patience and it would have been fine (probably the same with Red X it).

Instead you tried a different chemical immediately applying it in the most aggressive manner possible instead of following the directions on the bottle.

CC God....lol

 

[Mikey P]

I'm a cleaning god, not a spotting god.

Never having worked in the gettOH, my practice has always been minimal. I bet I've used 6 quarts of red dye remover over my 30 years

I really need to learn how to patch.

 

[FredC]

I'm a cleaning god, not a spotting god.

Never having worked in the gettOH, my practice has always been minimal. I bet I've used 6 quarts of red dye remover over my 30 years

I really need to learn how to patch.

Well they put the directions right there on the side of the bottle for you. Not just to help you remove the stain but to keep you from fn carpet up.

 

[Nomad74]

I get a lot of urine. One of the first questions I ask is “Was the animal on any medication” and “did you already try and clean it yourself”. If so, then all bets are off.

 

[hogjowl]

I just clean it with Bio 8
Sometimes I pretreat it with P-Sor
It almost always comes out
I don’t bore them with Professorial blathering
Idiots

 

[FredC]

I just clean it with Bio 8
Sometimes I pretreat it with P-Sor
It almost always comes out
I don’t bore them with Professorial blathering
Idiots

Do you find that to be effective on Phenazopyridine /dyes?

 

[steve_64]

A wet towel and weight and a day would be been better.

 

[Mikey P]

A wet towel and weight and a day would be been better.

and which chem?

 

[Mikey P]

Do you find that to be effective on Phenazopyridine /dyes?

https://mysoapdaddy.com/bio-spray-08/


no way..

 

[FredC]

https://mysoapdaddy.com/bio-spray-08/


no way..

well.....RTFT seemed harsh

 

[Mikey P]

RTFT?

 

[Jim Pemberton]

I'm beggining to think the jobs are plants from the IICRC BOD to discredit my good name and keep me out...

OK, seriously:

The "CCT" (Carpet Cleaning Technician) test still doesn't talk about polyester fibers hardly at all. They've not revised it since 2012. It has only ONE polyester question, and its a burn test question. But all sorts of questions on "5th generation nylon".

So If you took the course and faithfully memorized every damn answer on the test, it wouldn't have prepared you for the fact that polyester is NOT bullet proof, and can be bleached and discolored in several ways.

There has been more mentioned here on MB on polyester staining and discoloration problems than I've seen mentioned anywhere else.

This is among the 1,234,552 reasons I quit teaching their courses

OK, while I take a deep breath....

To be fair, the better IICRC instructors (Bill Yeadon/Jeff Cross/ShawnBissailon as examples, though not the only ones) very likely are bringing new information like this to their classes, but its not on the test and not required.

So IF anyone gives you any pushback (and they won't), dump this post on them, and give them my cell phone.

.....and tell them to put on asbestos ear protection.....

Rant over...for now.

 

[Old Coastie]

I just clean it with Bio 8
Sometimes I pretreat it with P-Sor
It almost always comes out
I don’t bore them with Professorial blathering
Idiots

PBI should be added to the lexicon.

 

[Cleanworks]

PBI should be added to the lexicon.

Pork Belly Idiots?

 

[J Scott W]

S100 is being rewritten at this time. One major hurdle is that the content is determined by consensus, agreement of a super-majority of those volunteers helping to write this. Consensus is way difference than proven scientific fact. With many parties having a vested interest, it is hard to get agreement on facts. It is also tough to write facts in a manner easily understood by most carpet cleaners. (yes, you guys are all brilliant, but you are the exceptions.)

Once the S100 is revised, then the exam is likely to have many polyester question. But I see that as likely 2 years or more away.

 

[Cleanworks]

S100 is being rewritten at this time. One major hurdle is that the content is determined by consensus, agreement of a super-majority of those volunteers helping to write this. Consensus is way difference than proven scientific fact. With many parties having a vested interest, it is hard to get agreement on facts. It is also tough to write facts in a manner easily understood by most carpet cleaners. (yes, you guys are all brilliant, but you are the exceptions.)

Once the S100 is revised, then the exam is likely to have many polyester question. But I see that as likely 2 years or more away.

Mikey never lets the facts get in the way.

 

[Mikey P]

S100 is being rewritten at this time. One major hurdle is that the content is determined by consensus, agreement of a super-majority of those volunteers helping to write this. Consensus is way difference than proven scientific fact. With many parties having a vested interest, it is hard to get agreement on facts. It is also tough to write facts in a manner easily understood by most carpet cleaners. (yes, you guys are all brilliant, but you are the exceptions.)

Once the S100 is revised, then the exam is likely to have many polyester question. But I see that as likely 2 years or more away.

Scott do the mills get involved in anyway in the writing of these standards?

 

[steve_64]

and which chem?

None.

If its still there after its dry stain magic and saran wrap.

 

[Jim Pemberton]

S100 is being rewritten at this time. One major hurdle is that the content is determined by consensus, agreement of a super-majority of those volunteers helping to write this. Consensus is way difference than proven scientific fact. With many parties having a vested interest, it is hard to get agreement on facts. It is also tough to write facts in a manner easily understood by most carpet cleaners. (yes, you guys are all brilliant, but you are the exceptions.)

Once the S100 is revised, then the exam is likely to have many polyester question. But I see that as likely 2 years or more away.

Thank you Scott.

Your answer is one of reason and experience.

My point remains that IICRC Carpet Cleaning Training is nearly 10 years out of date.

I know you remember the stain resist update to the exam that was rapidly introduced in the late 80s because of the advent of stain resistant carpet. It didn’t take long, because the will existed to do it. It seems that restoration subject matter rules the day the past several years and takes priority.

All of that said, you remain a voice of mature and well thought perspective, and my dispute is not with men of your caliber.