Walrus Gumboot
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Which chemical, which tool?
Filtration soiling
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Mikey P
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Mark Saiger
Mr Happy!
We see a lot of this type of soiling up here in the north with the heating season.
We never promised that we are going to get it all out because you cannot usually get it all out.
Also you have to be worried about how much paint you're going to take off those baseboards trying to get up close and personal. There are times we refuse to try and do more than prespray... heavy try to get up close safely and sometime just on your hands and knees with a microfiber rag trying to clean out the edges a little bit too.
Don't promise you are going to get those stains
We never promised that we are going to get it all out because you cannot usually get it all out.
Also you have to be worried about how much paint you're going to take off those baseboards trying to get up close and personal. There are times we refuse to try and do more than prespray... heavy try to get up close safely and sometime just on your hands and knees with a microfiber rag trying to clean out the edges a little bit too.
Don't promise you are going to get those stains
Cleanworks
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Saiger" data-source="post: 4650571" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch">The type and degree of filtration soiling seems to vary from different locations. I often hear of it not being a problem at all, to being something uncleanable. Here, except for relatively new carpets, it verges on the uncleanable most of the time. One of the worst I have ever dealt with was in a brand new condo building with white nylon carpets in all of the suites. No one had lived in the suites, yet there were filtration lines up to 8 inches wide. The building had a couple of obvious ventilation problems. First was the elevators weren't vented properly. By the time an elevator reached the 20th floor or above, it displaced a ton of air. Enough to blow a ladies dress over her head, Marilyn Monroe style. The second problem was that they installed individual heat pumps in every suite. The filtration was much worse bordering the mechanical rooms. Our job was to improve it enough to allow them to complete a sale. We used a ton of filter out type products and scrub brushes and edging tools. Looked good for about a week or 2 then started coming back. One of the problems with the filter out products seems to be residue that is very hard to rinse out. Generates a lot of foam which is a real issue for portables especially. Most of the time now, we just use our regular prespray and a pmf edging tool. If it doesn't come out, too bad. You can sometimes see the tool marks of the installers as well as where they stapled the carpet to the tack less. Poor installation techniques.
SteamwayPro
Supportive Member
Kleenrite BlackOut Grout Brush and a old 4 '' SteamWay Stair Tool. I have a Crevice Tool but it doesn't flush very good and it only covers about a 1/4-1/2 inch out from the wall. Many times the filtration soil is wider than the crevice tool so a 4'' stair tool works better. Yes it means getting on your knees but it just does a better job and you can move faster. I run the side of the stair tool along the baseboards. I get good results and do charge extra for this work. BlackOut rinses easier than the gel type spotters for soil filtration.
I use this method mostly in the extreme cases.
I use this method mostly in the extreme cases.
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Hack Attack
Member
I seldom have a problem with it
citrus based prespray mixed strong
old grout brush but not always needed
getting the fibres hard against the baseboard is the challenge, if there is enough I'll bust out the handtool
citrus based prespray mixed strong
old grout brush but not always needed
getting the fibres hard against the baseboard is the challenge, if there is enough I'll bust out the handtool
Walrus Gumboot
Member
Good stuff. Thanks!
Matt Middleton
Member
That works! We do that for about one job in three.
Walrus Gumboot
Member
I had one of those back in the day.
SteamwayPro
Supportive Member
It works great for tight spots. Between beds and dressers or cleaning the edge of area rugs. It puts out a lot of solution and works great for flushing/cleaning soil filtration. I don't use it for stairs because it's too small and slow.
hogjowl
Idiotâ„¢
Bunch of idiots
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FB19087
Guest
fels spray?
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FB19087
Guest
How much are you guys charging for FS removal?
Hack Attack
Member
Cleanworks
Moderator
$1 per linear foot.
Mikey P
Administrator
We own all the tools and chemistry but it's just so much easier to give the ol' "sorry mam, dats permanent" fix...
Hack Attack
Member
yep! I talk most out of me doing anything by saying "it will just keep coming back"
Hack Attack
Member
yowsers if I could get that I'd be trying to upsell everytime I saw it
mind sounds like you deal with some stubborn stuff compared to me
Cleanworks
Moderator
Sounds like more than it is. Not every wall has it. Maybe $20-$30 per average room on top of the regular cost. That includes spray/scrub/extract with edging tool. Like Mikey says, it's coming right back. I discourage most but there some where it needs to make a difference, either for a sale or an inspection.yowsers if I could get that I'd be trying to upsell everytime I saw it
mind sounds like you deal with some stubborn stuff compared to me
hogjowl
Idiotâ„¢
Actually, no.
My normal prespray and that tool Satan showed.
Saiger" data-source="post: 4650571" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch">if I have to use anything stronger than regular prespray, I tape the wood trim off with painters tape
just like I do with any wood floor that is in contact with carpet that I will be cleaning.
Mikey P
Administrator
which if you're not careful we'll get the carpet way lighter than it should be and won't match the rest
Hack Attack
Member
Mikey P
Administrator
Intense pressure and trapped heat
Cleanworks
Moderator
Good idea to turn your pressure down. Try the pmf gum blaster as well. It uses a flood jet which you can turn in towards the wall a little. Lots of power and a little wider.
hogjowl
Idiotâ„¢
Such a Nancy negative
