bob vawter
Grassy Knoller
we all are numbnuts......
1st truck mount advice
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Hack Attack
Member
lost feeling in any other extremities?
Hack Attack
Member
Trip Moses
IMOL
See. I was right.
I just hate hearing stories about hard earned and week disciplined savings being gambled on equipment with lesser track records than others.
hogjowl
Idiot™
They’re way to normal too post here.
Meter Maid
The Undetective
As you can see... it's virtually impossible to get reliable information on any forums/groups... bias will always creep in. I will tell you what I learned from being in a similar position:
I was all VLM... didn't want to spend lots of money, even though I was being steered toward bigger machines than I needed since people in the forums/groups will always justify their purchases.
I finally got to have a conversation with Greg down at Janitor's Closet in Orlando and he set me straight. He could've sold me bigger, but he didn't.
I'm like you... most of my jobs are 100'. Rarely do I use 150' and 200' maybe once or twice per year.
At 100' there is literally no vacuum difference (with a 12"-14" wand) between a 36 blower and anything bigger... no matter what anyone tells you. At 150' there's a small difference (maybe 10%). Over 150' and that's where the bigger blowers start showing up.
The bigger machines do produce more BTU and therefore more heat, but my little Boxxer 318 puts out plenty if if run it properly... I'd never want an LG... with the chems today, you don't need scorching heat, no matter what Les says. 170-180 degrees at the wand and you are good.
So, for 13k I got a Boxxer 318 (new), 70 gallon fresh water tank that it sits on and of course the waste tank. If something goes wrong, I can take it to a dealer and hour away.
My uncle uses a Legend and my little Boxxer performs exactly the same even though it's a bit smaller, because, again, there's no difference at 100'-150'.
I like the idea of buying a name brand because those companies actually employ engineers and have dealers that can help you if needed.
I did go through a phase recently where I was shopping extensively for a bigger unit, just because they are cool and I thought I'd get ridiculously better dry-times and heat. Then I called Greg and he basically said I was being stupid. He was going to buy back my Boxxer at full value for a 575, but he said I simply did not need anything bigger for what I do.
I was all VLM... didn't want to spend lots of money, even though I was being steered toward bigger machines than I needed since people in the forums/groups will always justify their purchases.
I finally got to have a conversation with Greg down at Janitor's Closet in Orlando and he set me straight. He could've sold me bigger, but he didn't.
I'm like you... most of my jobs are 100'. Rarely do I use 150' and 200' maybe once or twice per year.
At 100' there is literally no vacuum difference (with a 12"-14" wand) between a 36 blower and anything bigger... no matter what anyone tells you. At 150' there's a small difference (maybe 10%). Over 150' and that's where the bigger blowers start showing up.
The bigger machines do produce more BTU and therefore more heat, but my little Boxxer 318 puts out plenty if if run it properly... I'd never want an LG... with the chems today, you don't need scorching heat, no matter what Les says. 170-180 degrees at the wand and you are good.
So, for 13k I got a Boxxer 318 (new), 70 gallon fresh water tank that it sits on and of course the waste tank. If something goes wrong, I can take it to a dealer and hour away.
My uncle uses a Legend and my little Boxxer performs exactly the same even though it's a bit smaller, because, again, there's no difference at 100'-150'.
I like the idea of buying a name brand because those companies actually employ engineers and have dealers that can help you if needed.
I did go through a phase recently where I was shopping extensively for a bigger unit, just because they are cool and I thought I'd get ridiculously better dry-times and heat. Then I called Greg and he basically said I was being stupid. He was going to buy back my Boxxer at full value for a 575, but he said I simply did not need anything bigger for what I do.
Mikey P
Administrator
BS!
It's impossible to get a consensus.
If he's smart he'll go with the suggestion he hears pop up the most.
My experience with my one Judson was not favorable but it was the 1st unit of a new model.
Meter Maid
The Undetective
Definition of reliable:
adjective
- consistently good in quality or performance; able to be trusted.
Those who speak the loudest and use lots of caps are rarely right.
The suggestion he hears the most would be the "popular vote". Ask Hilary how "reliable" the popular vote is.
That said... the Judson was definitely on my short list.
Mikey P
Administrator
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FB7777
Guest
Get a lightly used Butler and become a salesman instead of a mechanic and grow your business
High sales volume solves a lot of problems that money can fix
Or be a chimp with a monkey wrench
High sales volume solves a lot of problems that money can fix
Or be a chimp with a monkey wrench
Bob Pruitt
Member
All the advice here is consistent with the experience of the person posting.
A used Butler met the criteria of a simple, reliable machine and something he could work on himself. I didn't understand he already had a van until later in the thread.
My suggestion was based on information I had at the time.
Advice on this board is far more reliable than you will find other places.
A used Butler met the criteria of a simple, reliable machine and something he could work on himself. I didn't understand he already had a van until later in the thread.
My suggestion was based on information I had at the time.
Advice on this board is far more reliable than you will find other places.
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FB7777
Guest
Fook the van lmao
Get a Butler....
When you’re heading in the wrong direction you don’t keep going cuz you’re already half way there
Get a Butler....
When you’re heading in the wrong direction you don’t keep going cuz you’re already half way there
hogjowl
Idiot™
I detest having to like so many Boyle posts.
He does seem to have good advice.
BUT I HATE HIM BECAUSE HE HURTS MY FEELINGS!
BUT I HATE HIM BECAUSE HE HURTS MY FEELINGS!
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FB7777
Guest
I’m working on my 15 minute presentation for a future Mikefest
So far I have “ Hey Morons if you want to grow your business, you are either cleaning or selling . If you didn’t know that , then sell your shit and go get a fookin job cuz you’re a
Phucktard”
The other 14 and a half minutes I’m gonna brag about myself like HeiferMan and Cermak
So far I have “ Hey Morons if you want to grow your business, you are either cleaning or selling . If you didn’t know that , then sell your shit and go get a fookin job cuz you’re a
Phucktard”
The other 14 and a half minutes I’m gonna brag about myself like HeiferMan and Cermak
steve_64
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My cleaning sells itself.
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FB7777
Guest
Mikey P
Administrator
Mrs Vawter says otherwise...
Mikey P
Administrator
Why did you delete this golden advice...
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FB19087
Guest
The better question is why are you quoting/un-deleting my post?
Mikey P
Administrator
Mrs Vawter thinks it's good advice
bob vawter
Grassy Knoller
I had no friends.......
Now I'm one in the hole.......-1
Mikey P
Administrator
I'm positive you could win the Clean Freak contest. You can clean to her high standards with that prize and leave poor Steve out of it
It's nice to be in a budget to be able to pay cash for most of your belongings. BUT......... in a business, it's not always the best way to purchase.
You can use your portable for the ridiculous amount of time to save up $10k for your reliabilt and after you've purchased it, you get to enjoy more of the profit on the job.
Or, you could finance a nice Peak500 with a Business Loan and save that $10k for any emergency costs that happen to us in life, AND write off the interest of the loan and how it depreciates and save more on your taxes at the end of the year.
I would rather get the better truckmount through financing and build my business credit at the same time.
Kenny Hayes
Member
But, it’s not being #cheap, it’s being #thrifty. Do what’s best for you, young man.
If you are the kind of guy that likes to pay cash for everything then go buy your TV, wife's new ring, and next summer's vacation with cash up front
Finance your truckmount that makes your job easier and can hold enough heat to give your wand a 12flow.
Titan575, Peak500, or Apex570.
If you're stuck on the smaller class, then the Rage would be my first choice. The 36blower is a good size for that size truckmount.
Finance your truckmount that makes your job easier and can hold enough heat to give your wand a 12flow.
Titan575, Peak500, or Apex570.
If you're stuck on the smaller class, then the Rage would be my first choice. The 36blower is a good size for that size truckmount.
Kenny Hayes
Member
I agree with you to a certain point. But if you’re a lone wolf, you still have to be careful on spending.
Cleanworks
Moderator
Monkeys don't let chimps use their wrenches.
If you are heart set on a truck mount lease a Buttler with their special no money down 3 year deal. If you like it, after three years buy a new one or get traditional bank loan and buy it. With your experience with VLM and the availability of the high performance portable do you really NEED to go truckmount ?
It will save you time for sure, but is worthless with apartments and even a lot of townhomes if you can't get close enough.
It will save you time for sure, but is worthless with apartments and even a lot of townhomes if you can't get close enough.
Trip Moses
IMOL
Thrifty? He already has a porty.
