Are dye kits worth messing with?

[GCCLee]

I run across quite a few spots I could be specializing in.


Most if not all of our Apts we deal with have bleached spots from the residents. Not all are worth fixing, however ones in high viz areas are to me.


All of our Clientele Trust our Judgment in Up selling Spot Removal.
HVYSPOT(COLOR) is how it is listed.
Reds are the only thing that fall under this one and in some cases they do bleach, it is a fact of life.


I know with the savings we provide these properties budgets. They'll pay for this stuff guaranteed!


I've painted cars professionally and printed colored newsprint, how hard can it be?

 

[Lee Stockwell]

Could write a book Chris...

 

[Shorty]

When you paint a green car with yellow paint, you should get a yellow car.

But what color do you get when you add yellow DYE to a light green nylon carpet fiber ??

It really can't be all that hard.

Can it. ??

 

[glenboy]

Got schooled and certified in 96..did some spots,whole rooms too...way too time consuming in my opinion....although I learned alot....dont do it..

 

[KevinL]

Dyeing is a lot different than painting. You're not changing the color, you are adding color to what is there to bring it back to what you want.It's not really that hard but it is very difficult. Figure that out.

 

[knoxclean]

It's not rocket science. We do it every week for our property management customers. I don't do it but all my techs know how. All my new guys have it down in 30 days or less depending how much practice they do.

 

[Desk Jockey]

The best I've seen done was Sir Wheelwright and his crayons.

What ever happened to the dye markers that came out not long ago? Did they not work?

http://www.americolordyes.com/carpet-dye-pens.php

 

[Goomer]

Wasn't some guy pushing a liquid system in sprayer bottles some time back that was able to match any color using only 3 sprayer bottles of the 3 primary colors??

I remember his system seemed fairly simple as you would just work through each color sprayer in a sequence, and that particular sequence was determined by the original color of the carpet, and which primary color was "removed" and needed to be "replaced"........or sumsing like that.

 

[Lee Stockwell]

Roper

 

[Shorty]

The best I've seen done was Sir Wheelwright and his crayons.

What ever happened to the dye markers that came out not long ago? Did they not work?

http://www.americolordyes.com/carpet-dye-pens.php

Please be prepared to see our completely renovated website in July 2014 ! - Same great products. Modern new look!

 

[Shorty]

Roper

Needs a rope around his neck.


Paid for my gear and never received it.

Not sure if he's related to "kenny". ??

 

[GCCLee]

There is a guy on FB pushing a Dye class now that I posted this..



Anyone know chris howell?

 

[Desk Jockey]

Please be prepared to see our completely renovated website in July 2014 ! - Same great products. Modern new look!

Hey don't kill the messenger!

 

[steve_64]

my experience is the crayons will turn white socks colors. maybe i didnt do it right.

i have a dye kit i havent tried yet due to that fear.

 

[Larry Cobb]

Steve;

Dye Kits are more permanent and give you a wide spectrum of color.

The latest technology improvement is using "colorimetry",

to determine the colors missing from the discolored areas.

Once you have that info, and info on the color dyes you are using . . .

you can begin to learn . . .

Larry

 

[Dmreed4311]

With these three dyes and bleach eradicator I can fix any bleach spot, from small to big. It takes lots of practice but once you get it down it is a great money maker.
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[SamIam]

The best I've seen done was Sir Wheelwright and his crayons.

What ever happened to the dye markers that came out not long ago? Did they not work?

http://www.americolordyes.com/carpet-dye-pens.php

One of my customers bought bleach neutralizer ordered the pens and fixed his carpet light tan I was impressed!


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[TomKing]

Joe Couch from alladins got me started.

Ruth Travis has a class she teaches you can fly to. you can pay for your investment really quick and it is a high profit service you should be offering. IMO

I did a job last summer for a lady who was selling a house didn't want to install new carpet just wanted to deal with bleach stains and she still was giving the buyer a carpet allowance.

We charge $200 to $400 when we do it. Chris a room of carpet is $1000 to $1500 dying is a cheap option to fix a damage spot.

Property managers accept more imperfection. Home owners tend to want it to look like new. It is important that you set expectations. sometime you can do a spot and it looks great from 3 directions in the light you have and the next day at a different time from another direction it looks slightly different. That has been my experience. Others are probably better than me.

 

[ruff]

As David Reed explained, the big kit with multiple colors is not necessary, as any dye can be fixed with the three primary colors (red, yellow and blue and black will help). Practice and patience make perfect. I do have the kit with all the colors, which I ceremoniously open on each dye repair job, much to the oohs & aahs of the highly impressed client. And then I do the repair with my three primary colors.

Question is: Is your client willing to pay for your patience (aka time) to make it look "perfect"?

One of the secrets and you will get better with experience is to go in slow increments of adding (intensifying) the missing dye. Time consuming.

As Tom said, and like anything else in our business, only somewhat more in dye repair, managing expectations is super important. The difference in time spent between getting the repair to be decent as opposed to close to perfect, is huge. Hard to know in advance how much of a perfectionist the client will be (though if you pay attention you'll read the 'red flags'.) When I have a perfectionist client I tell them that I'll charge by the hour and explain the time difference between getting it "perfect" or decent. Once they see the $$ difference, they are much more amenable to accept decent And if they're not happy, I am very willing to spend more time and be well compensated for it, as it was their choice.

One issue is that people are not happy to pay our hourly. There's a mental gap between paying for a whole job and realizing how much one pays per hour. My guess would be that landlords and management companies will be far less picky about how perfect the repair is, as opposed to the doting homeowner. Which may make this service more profitable.

It has never been a great money maker for me, I offer it more as a way of not opening the door to a competitor.

 

[harryhides]

Totally agree with Ofer re commercial vs residential and the use of a dog and pony show.
Most of the time I only ever used the 3 primary colors + black and a few grays.

For most of us, color repair will never be your primary source of revenue but
it will definitely separate you from your competitors, get you out the occasional problem
plus open the doors to lucrative commercial and insurance work.

There is a whole lot more to color repair than restoring bleached out nylon carpet.
It is a skill that can often be applied to all fibers including sisal's found in carpet, rugs,
upholstery and leather to restore color or hide/minimize unwanted colors.
But it does require a great deal of patience and not something to entrust to your Technicians in most cases.

 

[GCCLee]

I played color man at the press.

Ol guys thought I was pretty dang good at it!



RGB
Red, Green, Blue

Or

CMYK
Cyan
Magenta
Yellow

 

[WillS]

I've seen Interlink offer a class on carpet dying wasn't to bad for the pricing either. I've always heard its difficult to get it died almost perfectly. Is this true?

 

[Deleted member 51539]

Two Sides to every Coin... Offer any service and you suck (aren't good at it)... be prepared to loose your core revenue (clients)...

Charge for suck...

...With no work you will be stuck.

People will brag on what you did wrong,

And your referrals will dry up at the sound of the Gong.... #TheGongShow

 

[Shane Deubell]

What if you're good at everything though

 

[Shorty]

I would suggest that you do the course with the best instructor available.

Ask the guys here that currently do spot dye work, who taught them and what products they use.

Go to your local carpet retailers and get scraps of carpet, different fibres, colors, weaves, etc;

Take them home and put a multitude of stains on each one of them.

Including bleach, ESPECIALLY on the wool.

This will allow you to see first hand what bleach can do to wool.

Remember to neutralize any bleach marks BEFORE doing any color treatment on the stain.

Take photos of each one and mark them with the stain product also date them.

Leave them for at least a month.

Then attempt to remove the stain and replace any lost color to match the original carpet sample.

Go light on your mixes until you become proficient & confident with each type of carpet & the stains.

Take notes/photos of what the reaction is with each stain, and what % of each color used.


Practice - practice & practice some more before you work on a customers carpet.



PS:: Practice also with a steam iron compared to a steamer ((Black & Decker/Crane, etc, & also the very tip of the iron.

PPS:: Maybe harry will grace us once more with his presence & offer some sage advice on this matter. ??

 

[Desk Jockey]

What if your good at everything though

Yea.....what if you're great at everything?

 

[Shane Deubell]

What if you're good at everything though

 

[Desk Jockey]

 

[GCCLee]

Anyone ever make their own dyes?


People been doing it for thousands of years : )

 

[Desk Jockey]

I've seen photo's of before and after of Tony's crayon work and it was amazing.

I know he is very busy saving the world but maybe when things slow down he'd put on a class or sell an instruction book or video???? He has definitely mastered the use of crayons.