At what temps do you call-off scheduled appts?

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Good god almighty...honestly I don’t know how that’s any fun. On the other hand, bills need to be paid.

Fortunately I can stretch the cream to call it off. Otherwise my azz would be out doing saiger marathons.
 

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With Butlers you can close up the van, with slide ins you cant so I built a door drape to cover the machine but left slots for access to the needed knobs. Can work in just about any temps but really dont like to go out when its colder than -10.
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0 degrees air temp is my cutoff. Honestly it's not so much that we can't run the lines and clean, we have onboard water, but we have issues with tools and pressure lines freezing before we even get to the job. In hindsight I should have gotten my trucks insulated, in the future I will
 

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You were cleaning in Tower MN in 1996 at the weather monitoring station with 44" of snow on the ground. :eekk:
 
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Ive never insulated a van yet in Wisconsin. Why? Its stored in a heated garage and the van runs with the heater going while setting up and the TM runs while cleaning, when the TM is turned off, the van gets turned on. In fact I dont even have an ice scraper in the van because it stays so warm.

I dont get why you would need to insulate it unless you keep it outside in winter.
 

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Why not VLM when the mercury plummets? If you have VLM equipment at your disposal, it would seem like a practical way to keep the wheels turning - rather than getting froze out.
 
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Ive never insulated a van yet in Wisconsin. Why? Its stored in a heated garage and the van runs with the heater going while setting up and the TM runs while cleaning, when the TM is turned off, the van gets turned on. In fact I dont even have an ice scraper in the van because it stays so warm.

I dont get why you would need to insulate it unless you keep it outside in winter.
Keeps it cooler in summer too.
 
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Ive never insulated a van yet in Wisconsin. Why? Its stored in a heated garage and the van runs with the heater going while setting up and the TM runs while cleaning, when the TM is turned off, the van gets turned on. In fact I dont even have an ice scraper in the van because it stays so warm.

I dont get why you would need to insulate it unless you keep it outside in winter.

Ours live in a heated shop too but we still start having issues with tools freezing when temps get in the single digits, not much heat circulates back there
 

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Why not VLM when the mercury plummets?

because it's a crappy way to clean res and anything but light/moderate soiled com
and few have dedicated VLM vans...so the TM is still out in the cold


In fact I dont even have an ice scraper in the van because it stays so warm.

you run a slide-in, Paul?
I've never owned a direct drive, but pretty sure they don't put out the same radiant heat inside the van like a slide-in does

On frigid cold mornings, I started the TM, partially blocked the vac port and let run for 15 minutes or more (exhaust routed thru floor, so I could close doors)
Left the drive with toasty warm van and giant radiant heater (warm/hot TM) in the back

don't think you can get the same effect from DD's ...or certainly not as much radiant heat

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I am in Chicago tonight coming in from Vegas...at the Butt Crack of Dawn.....

Meeting in the Morning and then hope to dodge the big storm moving across...

It's supposed to be record lows this week....of course....we have a busy week!
 

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You were cleaning in Tower MN in 1996 at the weather monitoring station with 44" of snow on the ground. :eekk:

We do a few jobs in Tower...including their DNR building once a year...and get jobs off that....

We had another just about as cold day (when Arnie Carlson was Governor) and it closed down the schools.... so I was out cleaning in that one....

It's incredibly quiet when you are outside in those temps....sound just doesn't travel the same....

I wonder if that is how death would be....quiet....and very little sound....
 
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lol.............I put that up because it is the only time/place it has ever been -60 actual in MN. It is the record for the state. Not that the place isn't otherwise miserably frigid just surprised to see the record posted............................
 

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Getting morbid in your old age.
 
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lol.............I put that up because it is the only time/place it has ever been -60 actual in MN. It is the record for the state. Not that the place isn't otherwise miserably frigid just surprised to see the record posted............................

Yep.....and now getting older...not to enthused about doing it again
 
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Our low Tuesday is minus 1. Can't imagine what you guys will be.
 
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I'm working tomorrow but postponing the rest of the week, "as a courtesy to my customers".

Shop projects, lots of coffee and MB to round out the week. Should have went to Panama.
 
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My poor Audi is in a nice warm shop wit her guts all over the floor.......needs a thermostat and they gotta pull the whole guts out to get to it.... $2495.00 jus lik new for another 100K or so....it costs to be cool

TWIN TURBOS......goes lik greased sh*t

I took this guy to the store for cigs.....l suppose I should told him about the dip
But I didn't......no seat belts......I know he was at the roof of my car at least 5 or 7 sec
I looked up and he looked down at me......
A very uncomfortable moment....
 
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I'm going to go run the snowblower again. Snow is our biggest issue in getting jobs done. 8832288323its really going to suck when the temp plunges tomorrow. Its about 5 now dropping to -30 ish wedsnday. Suppose to snow till tomorrow morning.
 
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I don't know that we have ever rescheduled a job because of the cold temperatures. The one thing we make sure of is to keep the truck closed up and also to get the water running as quickly as possible. My rule of thumb is you have 60 seconds from the time the solution line hits the ground to have it running. Once it is heated up, there don't seem to be any issues.

This Wednesday our high temperature for the day is forecast to be -1. Fun, fun, fun...
 

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I just posted an EncapBlog post on this topic. Here's a copy & paste...

Man it's cold out there!
There was a recent discussion between carpet cleaners on how to operate their truck-mounts in cold weather. In fact this seems to be a yearly topic around this time of year. Carpet cleaning in the snow states can slow way down, like a hibernating bear, during the coldest weeks of winter.
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Here are 3 options that can help you get through the winter:
1. Offer low moisture cleaning, at least during the winter months. This approach seems like the shortest path to keep the wheels turning when the mercury plummets.

2. Use a Seal A Door. This is popular with truck-mount operators to try keep some of the the cold out while running hoses into the house.

3. Stay home and drink hot chocolate.

Option 3 sounds great! I mean, who doesn't love hot chocolate. Yet as much as sitting around in your pajamas sipping a steaming mug of hot chocolate sounds like fun, it won't pay the bills.

Option 2 is a practical approach for truck-mount operators. And although the Seal A Door won't keep the cold out entirely, at least it will help.

Option 1 is starting to look pretty good. Being able to clean carpet on the coldest and snowiest days of the year has its appeal. Bring the machine inside, close the door, and get to work. Cleaning carpet with low moisture portable equipment is much easier than running a truck-mount on a winter day.

Residential Carpet Cleaning:
So how do you approach this with your residential customers? Here's an idea of what you might say...

"Yes, we can clean your carpet on Wednesday, even though the temperature will be below zero, and snow is predicted. And we won't need to leave your door open. We'll be using our low moisture system to clean your carpet. Your carpet will dry quickly and look great! In fact many customers actually prefer the low moisture method. Or if you happen to prefer the truck-mount system, we can still provide that for you (now or in the spring). Would you like to book our low moisture cleaning for Wednesday?"

Commercial Carpet Care:
Another strategy for winter-proofing your carpet cleaning business is to add more commercial carpet cleaning to the mix. The nice thing about commercial carpet care is that it's fairly weather resistant. You can set up your accounts on a service schedule that doesn't falter with cold weather. You can send out the truck with a Cimex, Orbital, or CRB machine. And you'll be able to successfully clean your commercial accounts, as long as the roads are passable.

Ice Melt:
One last tip for winter is to target ice melt residue. Ice melt residue can make a terrible mess in entry ways. But if you know how to treat the problem, you can be a carpet cleaning hero. Here's an easy method to fix snow and ice melt residue... Clean the carpet with Encap-HydrOx. HydrOx breaks through the soil residue and associated discoloration that comes from ice melt salt.

I hope these tips will help you get through the record setting cold days this winter — as profitably as possible. Stay warm!
 
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Residential Carpet Cleaning:
So how do you approach this with your residential customers? Here's an idea of what you might say...

"Yes, we can clean your carpet on Wednesday, even though the temperature will be below zero, and snow is predicted. And we won't need to leave your door open. We'll be using our low moisture system to clean your carpet. Your carpet will dry quickly and look great! In fact many customers actually prefer the low moisture method. Or if you happen to prefer the truck-mount system, we can still provide that for you (now or in the spring). Would you like to book our low moisture cleaning for Wednesday?"

So you just don't mention that the boogers and piss are now spread evenly across the room......sneaky :icon_twisted:
 
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You know Fred, I always took that line of reasoning too; that low moisture just didn't have the chops for residential. So we've focused on promoting low moisture for commercial. But so many of our customers have proven otherwise, that it can be done. We hear from guys all the time who are running successful low moisture businesses that include residential. So it may be worth considering, or not. Nice to have options.
 

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I just don't see the point. If you're going to haul in a heavy machine, cleaning solution, pads and what not, why not invest in a high performance portable with 2-3stage vac motors and a real 500 psi pump. No it's not a truck mount but it's the next best thing. Takes a little bit longer but you are still flushing the carpets instead of smearing things around. I know you can get a good appearance with low moisture but I just feel better using hwe on residential.
 

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I just don't see the point. If you're going to haul in a heavy machine, cleaning solution, pads and what not, why not invest in a high performance portable with 2-3stage vac motors and a real 500 psi pump. No it's not a truck mount but it's the next best thing. Takes a little bit longer but you are still flushing the carpets instead of smearing things around. I know you can get a good appearance with low moisture but I just feel better using hwe on residential.
The draw back for me was always unnecessary moisture to the environment. All the "booger" particles, urine odor and high humidity exhaust blown into living space.

I used to hate winter cleanings with portables. Windows fog up and water condenses off the glass.

Can't think a bigger disservice. I'd rather have smeared boogers. 😉

Boogers, who has boogers in there carpet? Fred hopefully you wear shoes at home. 🙂
 

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The draw back for me was always unnecessary moisture to the environment. All the "booger" particles, urine odor and high humidity exhaust blown into living space.

I used to hate winter cleanings with portables. Windows fog up and water condenses off the glass.

Can't think a bigger disservice. I'd rather have smeared boogers. 😉

Boogers, who has boogers in there carpet? Fred hopefully you wear shoes at home. 🙂
We do condos every day without windows steaming up. Even in the winter, there's nothing wrong with opening the windows a crack. Forced air systems continuous clean the air and usually homes are very dry because of the heat. Good to add a little moisture. If it really bothers you, you can vent your portable to the outside.
 

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I've never once doubted that it can be done in residential.........
The draw back for me was always unnecessary moisture to the environment. All the "booger" particles, urine odor and high humidity exhaust blown into living space.

I used to hate winter cleanings with portables. Windows fog up and water condenses off the glass.

Can't think a bigger disservice. I'd rather have smeared boogers. 😉

Boogers, who has boogers in there carpet? Fred hopefully you wear shoes at home. 🙂
anyone with kids, pets, or a low slung chair :D
 
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