best encap method cimex or brush pro

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picked up the Cimex today. Didn't realize it was the 24 inch model, thing is a beast. It is also an older model with the smaller wheels which makes it a pain to move around and it will not go up stairs unless you have 2 people and the solution trigger is broken. Still works but will have to be replaced. Comes with floor and hard surface brushes plus drive blocks with old Velcro attached for pad use. Velcro looks like it needs to replaced. Tried it out today on an apartment lobby and hallway which is level loop over pad. Used Procyon Extreme and it came out pretty good. Stopped and had a couple of beer with the bldg. mgr. for about an hour and when I checked, the carpet was already dry to the touch. Some of the more troublesome spots had disappeared, I'll check tomorrow to see if they stay gone. The machine is large and cumbersome but very easy to use and fast. Won't get into corners but edges quite well. I am going to order some pads and some Releasit and see how that works. The guy wants $2000.00 and I'm thinking maybe $1000.00. Any opinions on the size and the price?


A local guy had one posted for $200... Same one, 24"... I was going to buy it just because.... The post expired but I'm pretty sure he still got it.... Another guy put a pump and spray jets on his instead of shower feeding.... I was looking at doing the same thing...
 
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picked up the Cimex today. Didn't realize it was the 24 inch model, thing is a beast. It is also an older model with the smaller wheels which makes it a pain to move around and it will not go up stairs unless you have 2 people and the solution trigger is broken. Still works but will have to be replaced. Comes with floor and hard surface brushes plus drive blocks with old Velcro attached for pad use. Velcro looks like it needs to replaced. Tried it out today on an apartment lobby and hallway which is level loop over pad. Used Procyon Extreme and it came out pretty good. Stopped and had a couple of beer with the bldg. mgr. for about an hour and when I checked, the carpet was already dry to the touch. Some of the more troublesome spots had disappeared, I'll check tomorrow to see if they stay gone. The machine is large and cumbersome but very easy to use and fast. Won't get into corners but edges quite well. I am going to order some pads and some Releasit and see how that works. The guy wants $2000.00 and I'm thinking maybe $1000.00. Any opinions on the size and the price?

That is a nice looking antique. Those puppies just keep on going. :)

I agree with Bob - $500 is a fair price. Unless you're seeking it as a museum piece. Most of the parts are no longer available. It's 30ish years old.
 
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I just use my buffer with a bonnet, on this job I would have had to pull 350 feet of hose to clean this one room , so I encap this room and it turned out really good, I would like to get a CRB to get scrub the carpet and to get out the pet hair out of the carpet. When I clean a 30,000 sq. ft. building I run two truckmounts one at one end of the building and another at the other end and I run two wands off both truckmounts. running 4 wands and two hose pullers I can clean 30,000 sq. ft. in 8 hours endcap cleaning
 

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thanks for all the info and advice guy, it will work for the large commercial jobs I am bidding on and I definitely won't pay too much for it. I checked the carpets I did yesterday and they look fantastic, all the spots have disappeared. I have rotarys and pads/bonnets for smaller jobs but this machine will cut my time almost in half. Maybe I will start my hall of fame carpet cleaning equipment museum with it.
 

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I am returning the cimex, too heavy and awkward. (24 in and 132 lbs) and I bought a used brush pro combo. 10in and 17in. $2200 for the package. Tried out the 10in in my bldg and seems to work great.
 

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Hello Rick, I don't know if it is feasible to order from you with the difference in our currencies and customs fees. We do have a cimex distributor in Ontario apparently but any advice you have on pads and juice would be appreciated and if it makes economic sense, I would definitely buy from you.
We have a great supplier in Ontario. I buy from them all the time. Great people. I'll PM you the contact info.
 

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I just use my buffer with a bonnet, on this job I would have had to pull 350 feet of hose to clean this one room , so I encap this room and it turned out really good, I would like to get a CRB to get scrub the carpet and to get out the pet hair out of the carpet. When I clean a 30,000 sq. ft. building I run two truckmounts one at one end of the building and another at the other end and I run two wands off both truckmounts. running 4 wands and two hose pullers I can clean 30,000 sq. ft. in 8 hours endcap cleaning


Glad that works for you but your cleaning procedure is probably the reason why most TM guys think VLM cleaning is a joke. It's not a joke and that's not real way to VLM clean by FAR.
 
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The CRB is the last piece of equipment I need to get and I want one bad! How much do they run in the group buys?

Kellie- we still have a scratch and dent unit 15" machine on here somewhere for a steal... let me know if you are interested. Only minor stuff from shipping. Full warranty minus cosmetics. Pics on on here somewhere. Ill hunt it down and forward this afternoon. Gotta run for now...
 
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Glad that works for you but your cleaning procedure is probably the reason why most TM guys think VLM cleaning is a joke. It's not a joke and that's not real way to VLM clean by FAR.
I prevacuum the room and then I sprayed the whole room and as I was bonneting the room I sprayed the bad areas, So what am I doing wrong. I also sprayed the bonnet.
 
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I prevacuum the room and then I sprayed the whole room and as I was bonneting the room I sprayed the bad areas, So what am I doing wrong. I also sprayed the bonnet.

I admit my assessment was unfair as I didn't see the whole process from start to finish and I'm not there to see the actual condition of the carpet. Yeah there is more steps/more professional equipment than what you were showing but if what you were doing works for the situation, then that's cool. My initial reaction was due to the fact your video, I thought, gave the appearance that VLM is done with a pad and a $15 hand held pump up sprayer squirted indiscriminately here and there on the carpet. Carry on!
 
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I admit my assessment was unfair as I didn't see the whole process from start to finish and I'm not there to see the actual condition of the carpet. Yeah there is more steps/more professional equipment than what you were showing but if what you were doing works for the situation, then that's cool. My initial reaction was due to the fact your video, I thought, gave the appearance that VLM is done with a pad and a $15 hand held pump up sprayer squirted indiscriminately here and there on the carpet. Carry on!
I mostly use my truckmount when I am cleaning carpets and sometimes on commercial carpet in the bad traffic areas I bonnet them afterwards with an encap
 
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I recently did the largest building in town. 7 story building I only measured the first floor for bid at $650.

They got back to me weeks later and said they wanted it all done for an inspection but had a $2000 budget. They specifically asked me to cut corners.

5 hours 4 people. 2 vacuuming ahead and me and Genny with the buffer a grey pad shower feed and about a quart of realeasit.

My best paying job yet and they were ecstatic.

I dont care what others do or feel is right. My customers are what matters and making money.
 

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