Does Galvy and PVC have a place on a high heat truckmount?

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Rattle Canned or not...
 
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Re: Does Galvy and PVC have a place on a high heat truckmoun

Looks like a private label Ametex.

Somebody must have got a great deal on 2" galvanized elbows.
 

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Re: Does Galvy and PVC have a place on a high heat truckmoun

at which end do you want me to begin.......
 

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Re: Does Galvy and PVC have a place on a high heat truckmoun

Speak your mind Jim, what do you see wrong with it?


What is that on the Pump head?

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Re: Does Galvy and PVC have a place on a high heat truckmoun

I knew this was coming... Aside from ***. Ben at amtex builds high quality machines. Lol. And he seems to care alot

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Re: Does Galvy and PVC have a place on a high heat truckmoun

I would not consider that high quality machine Joey, why do you?


Does TCS use galvy plumbing?
 

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That thing will be a lump of rust and electrolysis in under 1000 hours.

A lot of the things that you want to check or adjust are covered with something that will make them hard to service.

The pressure pump looks off-brand.

The vacuum T before the spin off PVC unions should be swept and not straight T and will cause more turbulence hindering rather than helping of airflow.
 

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first off..your not going to be able to see the gauges that are inset into the machine..picture the thing bolted down in a van.....you are going to have to stoop down to read what they are reading....

Galvanized pipe and water are a bad mix.....you might get a good year out of it before big problems start to happen.....

Galvanized and heat are not real friends either..then add the krylon and it is going to be even more un-friendly....

Galvanized exhaust is to close to that gauge....

under the hour meter wire there is no grommet for the wire to go thru and in time it will vibrate the sheathing off and short out....

the 2 hoses coming off the waste tank that you hook your vacuum hose in has bad connectors...it needs some of Mytees cuffs......

the galvanized 90's off the waste tank are going to rust and get all rough on the inside and will start closing up the pipe with lint from carpets...

the plastic fittings are not designed for heat and there is not support on the on 90 degree fitting....it is going to vibrate and snap the plastic coupler.......

way to many turns/bends in the piping...

blower filters look to inclosed between the baffles....probably going to get some restriction there.....

I have no idea what the smaller galvanized piping is on the side..but it looks like it has to do with heat...

no support on the black water line coming off the ball valve on the front..it will vibrate real bad and probably break at the crimp....

black knob on pump look like a low end metering valve....
 

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Re: Does Galvy and PVC have a place on a high heat truckmoun

oh come on Ben is a great guy, why would he make all those mistakes?
 
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Re: Does Galvy and PVC have a place on a high heat truckmoun

Y'ALL STOP PICKING ON ROB !!!!! YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE ON THE STICKER THAT THE UNIT IS [ CERTIFIED ]
 

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Re: Re: Does Galvy and PVC have a place on a high heat truck

Mikey P said:
I would not consider that high quality machine Joey, why do you?


Does TCS use galvy plumbing?
I dont think so... But alot of guys say the machines are good and at a great price point

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Re: Does Galvy and PVC have a place on a high heat truckmoun

So are all amtex machines built this way?

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Re: Does Galvy and PVC have a place on a high heat truckmoun

Lol not old enough. I guess I should let the veterans take this on

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Re: Does Galvy and PVC have a place on a high heat truckmoun

Let me comment about galvanized (zinc hot dipped carbon steel fittings).

ANY.. and I mean any water contact with copper, and galvanized materials cause a dielectric reaction. It slowly breaks down the carbon and zinc in the fittings. Brass has slighter odds than copper, yet it's an alloy in itself.

The difference in a 2" 304 SS 300# fitting and retrospective galvanized fitting is less than 10 bucks.

I worked in a wholesale warehouse selling all pipe and fittings of all sizes.

Long story short: Someone's cheap, and it's gonna cause problems someday.
 

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Re: Does Galvy and PVC have a place on a high heat truckmoun

I understand now. Surely someones had a problem with it by now.

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Ron Werner said:
what's with the ball valve off the vacuum between the tank and blower?

To manually override the high-temp water dumping into the waste tank.

I'd rather it dumped on the ground, or better-thru a cooling radiator and back into the fresh tank.
 

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this is not going to work that well......there should of been a single hose coming off the blower to the waste tank and then the filters split in a chamber inside the tank..what he has here is the first filter/line off the top of the "T" is going to take most the load.... the second filter is going to free flow what is left....then take into account the bends and the filters being locked in so tight between the baffles....lot of restrictions there.....
 

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Re: Does Galvy and PVC have a place on a high heat truckmoun

ahhhhhhhhhhhh

the judge jury and executioners all in one thread
 

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Odin said:
ahhhhhhhhhhhh

the judge jury and executioners all in one thread

so taking into consideration your back ground....where do you think I am wrong........
 

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Re: Does Galvy and PVC have a place on a high heat truckmoun

have you run that machine? seen one in person

I really don't see much wrong with it

It will work fine for it's intended purpose

looks like Ben is making what carpet cleaners need and can afford pretty simple

I'm sure it will do the same function as any other machine in it's class and engine and blower

would I use some of those materials probably not but everything cost money

point in hand your never going to make anything that is going to be all end all and please all carpet cleaners

I'm sure if someone whats all gold plated tungsten plumbing all they have to do is pay for it
 

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Odin said:
have you run that machine? seen one in person

I really don't see much wrong with it

It will work fine for it's intended purpose

looks like Ben is making what carpet cleaners need and can afford pretty simple

I'm sure it will do the same function as any other machine in it's class and engine and blower

would I use some of those materials probably not but everything cost money

point in hand your never going to make anything that is going to be all end all and please all carpet cleaners

I'm sure if someone whats all gold plated tungsten plumbing all they have to do is pay for it

true to a point but......but if you can take a bit of criticism on a product and learn from some of the problem that others have experienced in the past...( like all the rust and the issues that I had with my vortex because of the galvanized piping ).wouldn't you want to know so you could make it better....

and why does affordable have to come with cheap fitting......once all that rust starts going thru that machine...how affordable is it going to be.....
 

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Re: Does Galvy and PVC have a place on a high heat truckmoun

it comes down to simple economics

from the get go most carpet cleaners are not going to pay for

the nice thing is looks to be no priority parts

trust me I make custom stuff
to do all that in stainless is going to raise he price of that machine
maybe to a price point where it is a deal breaker?

it's not easy to please a bunch of carpet cleaners

holy shit T cant you make it out of plastic yes I could would it last no but you have to pay for it


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longevity is more economical the cheap parts..........
 

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Re: Does Galvy and PVC have a place on a high heat truckmoun

JHC, design some mandrel bent piping that will handle some flow
so you don't have to build TWO of everything.
No need for half the crap on that unit.
 

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Re: Does Galvy and PVC have a place on a high heat truckmoun

Exactly Kevin. I think that thing is a POS and to call it anything else is a lie. Just like the recoil is a POS too.

Too friggen bad if it hurts Ben's feelings or the wack jobs that run ***.

If you want to deal with carpet cleaners you need to put your grown up panties on...
 

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