you guys are forgetting one important point, if the machine is so great, walk ups happen every day etc, the customer housewife has an orgasim the moment the
vortex pulls up, by mearly owning a
vortex you become rich, why on earth is venturi going to vans and slide ins?? venturi are the only ones who have a real long term relationship with these machines and they aren't buying more, what does that tell you