S
Stonegeek
Guest
Re: I need the Top 3 Stone Guys here to test some Cheetah Pa
I just got done looking at dozens of posts on dirtygrout.com where a whole herd was having a joyous time bashing the monkey pads posting pictures of orange peeled floors and complaints of no clarity. The interesting part was that in every case when they described what steps they did, it was all done wrong. Not one single person followed the instruction booklet that is available for free download. If you try to use a screw driver in place of a hammer can you drive a 3" nail into a 4x4? Nope. You can't get clarity with monkey (when used improperly) any more than a crystallizer can remove lippage. No disrespect to dirty grout or it's members implied, there's tons of valuable information shared there but in this instance, several people used the Monkey Pads completely wrong and then jumped on the computer to tell the world all about it.
Just to clarify. They say that people are selling monkey pads to carpet cleaners who don't know any better. I say that monkey pads have a place for light restoration and polishing for guys who don't want to get into heavy restoration. It gives them the opportunity to satisfy a very large segment of the market, customers who want to improve the appearance of their floor but aren't prepared to spend the money commanded by a specialist. Listen guys. There's a place in the market for all of you. Ron Lippold is a perfect example. Is he an OCD stone guy? No. Is he a hack? No. He's a decent hard working guy trying to earn an honest living providing a specific service at a reasonable price for customers who want good value and an improvement but aren't willing to pay specialist prices for perfection. Does that make him bad? No. Does it mean the specialist is ripping people off with the higher prices? No. Each hold their own value. Each has a place in the market. Each has it's own set of tools, equipment and skill level. I never bothered to get into the pissing matches because sometimes some people just like to bad mouth something. Had any one of them actually called us up and explained the issues they were experiencing it would have been easy to solve since they were trying to use a screwdriver instead of a hammer and then got mad when the stupid nail wouldn't go into the 4x4. Oh well too late for all that now I guess.
Do yourself a favor. If you have any issues with Cheetahs or Monkeys, call 800-280-0333 and ask for technical support. That's what we are here for. To help you get the results you're looking for. We can't help if no one asks.
I do apologize for the rant but it bothers me when I see all the bashing going on. Carpet cleaners bashing stone guys. Stone guys bashing carpet cleaners. It's nutz! I spent many years doing both and getting to know tons of decent hard working people on both sides. They can really help you and you can really help them. The smart ones, like Mikey, find ways to partner so that everyone wins. Especially the customer. All I'm saying is... Can't we all just get along???
I just got done looking at dozens of posts on dirtygrout.com where a whole herd was having a joyous time bashing the monkey pads posting pictures of orange peeled floors and complaints of no clarity. The interesting part was that in every case when they described what steps they did, it was all done wrong. Not one single person followed the instruction booklet that is available for free download. If you try to use a screw driver in place of a hammer can you drive a 3" nail into a 4x4? Nope. You can't get clarity with monkey (when used improperly) any more than a crystallizer can remove lippage. No disrespect to dirty grout or it's members implied, there's tons of valuable information shared there but in this instance, several people used the Monkey Pads completely wrong and then jumped on the computer to tell the world all about it.
Just to clarify. They say that people are selling monkey pads to carpet cleaners who don't know any better. I say that monkey pads have a place for light restoration and polishing for guys who don't want to get into heavy restoration. It gives them the opportunity to satisfy a very large segment of the market, customers who want to improve the appearance of their floor but aren't prepared to spend the money commanded by a specialist. Listen guys. There's a place in the market for all of you. Ron Lippold is a perfect example. Is he an OCD stone guy? No. Is he a hack? No. He's a decent hard working guy trying to earn an honest living providing a specific service at a reasonable price for customers who want good value and an improvement but aren't willing to pay specialist prices for perfection. Does that make him bad? No. Does it mean the specialist is ripping people off with the higher prices? No. Each hold their own value. Each has a place in the market. Each has it's own set of tools, equipment and skill level. I never bothered to get into the pissing matches because sometimes some people just like to bad mouth something. Had any one of them actually called us up and explained the issues they were experiencing it would have been easy to solve since they were trying to use a screwdriver instead of a hammer and then got mad when the stupid nail wouldn't go into the 4x4. Oh well too late for all that now I guess.
Do yourself a favor. If you have any issues with Cheetahs or Monkeys, call 800-280-0333 and ask for technical support. That's what we are here for. To help you get the results you're looking for. We can't help if no one asks.
I do apologize for the rant but it bothers me when I see all the bashing going on. Carpet cleaners bashing stone guys. Stone guys bashing carpet cleaners. It's nutz! I spent many years doing both and getting to know tons of decent hard working people on both sides. They can really help you and you can really help them. The smart ones, like Mikey, find ways to partner so that everyone wins. Especially the customer. All I'm saying is... Can't we all just get along???