Is Phoenix faster than Vibe on commercial halls

Meter Maid

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For the Orbot to clean good, you have to strap on the weights, no matter what anyone tells you.

Then it weighs more than the Phoenix, unless you take the weights off each time.
 

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I owned an Orbot and I now have two Tops. I am 5'4" tall and I need back surgery. I have no problem lifting the Tops machine into my van. The orbot seemed more "awkward" to lift. The handle needed to be tilted back to fit int the van. I can lift the tops with one hand on the handle on the front and the other hand on the hook that holds the solution bottle and I lift it up to the floor of the van.
As for the difference in cleaning between the two: the orbot is smooth and easier to push. I think they clean about the same. The tops I can have numerous solution bottles filled and quickly switch them out when they need it. The orbot you have to refill the solution tank which is considerably slower. Another trivial thing is the tops machine will push the power cord out of the way. The orbot will want to wrap the cord around the driver.
Both machines are good. If I still owned an orbot I wouldn't replace it with a tops unless it was time to replace it. If I was buying a new machine and didn't own one already I would buy a tops. The only reason I got rid of my orbot is because it was sitting and a local guy needed one so i sold it. Now that I'm doing a lot more VLM, the tops is my choice.
 

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I owned an Orbot and I now have two Tops. I am 5'4" tall and I need back surgery. I have no problem lifting the Tops machine into my van. The orbot seemed more "awkward" to lift. The handle needed to be tilted back to fit int the van. I can lift the tops with one hand on the handle on the front and the other hand on the hook that holds the solution bottle and I lift it up to the floor of the van.
As for the difference in cleaning between the two: the orbot is smooth and easier to push. I think they clean about the same. The tops I can have numerous solution bottles filled and quickly switch them out when they need it. The orbot you have to refill the solution tank which is considerably slower. Another trivial thing is the tops machine will push the power cord out of the way. The orbot will want to wrap the cord around the driver.
Both machines are good. If I still owned an orbot I wouldn't replace it with a tops unless it was time to replace it. If I was buying a new machine and didn't own one already I would buy a tops. The only reason I got rid of my orbot is because it was sitting and a local guy needed one so i sold it. Now that I'm doing a lot more VLM, the tops is my choice.
Actually, that was one of the better long posts I’ve read in a while😏 seriously!
 

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I owned an Orbot and I now have two Tops. I am 5'4" tall and I need back surgery. I have no problem lifting the Tops machine into my van. The orbot seemed more "awkward" to lift. The handle needed to be tilted back to fit int the van. I can lift the tops with one hand on the handle on the front and the other hand on the hook that holds the solution bottle and I lift it up to the floor of the van.
As for the difference in cleaning between the two: the orbot is smooth and easier to push. I think they clean about the same. The tops I can have numerous solution bottles filled and quickly switch them out when they need it. The orbot you have to refill the solution tank which is considerably slower. Another trivial thing is the tops machine will push the power cord out of the way. The orbot will want to wrap the cord around the driver.
Both machines are good. If I still owned an orbot I wouldn't replace it with a tops unless it was time to replace it. If I was buying a new machine and didn't own one already I would buy a tops. The only reason I got rid of my orbot is because it was sitting and a local guy needed one so i sold it. Now that I'm doing a lot more VLM, the tops is my choice.

Are you (having too) use the weight kit to get the Orbot to work as well as the TOPS?
 
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I’ve had to carry my Cimex up 3 floors (old building, no elevator), and my Phoenix up 4 floors (broken elevator).

It was a total PITA, but I did it with no assistance.

Would I want to do it again? Hell NO!!!
Could I? Of course.

I’m just happy and grateful that I own a kick ass hot tub….
 
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I owned an Orbot and I now have two Tops. I am 5'4" tall and I need back surgery. I have no problem lifting the Tops machine into my van. The orbot seemed more "awkward" to lift. The handle needed to be tilted back to fit int the van. I can lift the tops with one hand on the handle on the front and the other hand on the hook that holds the solution bottle and I lift it up to the floor of the van.
As for the difference in cleaning between the two: the orbot is smooth and easier to push. I think they clean about the same. The tops I can have numerous solution bottles filled and quickly switch them out when they need it. The orbot you have to refill the solution tank which is considerably slower. Another trivial thing is the tops machine will push the power cord out of the way. The orbot will want to wrap the cord around the driver.
Both machines are good. If I still owned an orbot I wouldn't replace it with a tops unless it was time to replace it. If I was buying a new machine and didn't own one already I would buy a tops. The only reason I got rid of my orbot is because it was sitting and a local guy needed one so i sold it. Now that I'm doing a lot more VLM, the tops is my choice.
I find my Sprayborg awkward to lift into the van as well. The Phoenix is much easier. I do find the Sprayborg is easier to go up and down stairs with. My buildings all have elevators but I have one with 6 stairs in the middle of the hallway on each floor. Both are good, well built machines. I find the Phoenix a little faster. Both my machines take the same 2.5 gallon jugs. I usually use my Phoenix with my Sprayborg as a backup.
 

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Yeah, I hardly ever use the weight kit also. It works just fine. Im sure the weight helps with the scrub a dub. It certainly makes it glide across the carpet like a Mack Truck.

Well it looks like I may be heading to San Diego to get my new R-18 Roctane. So exciting. Don't care what anyone thinks :) It's going to look good in my living room.

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Yeah, I hardly ever use the weight kit also. It works just fine. Im sure the weight helps with the scrub a dub. It certainly makes it glide across the carpet like a Mack Truck.

Well it looks like I may be heading to San Diego to get my new R-18 Roctane. So exciting. Don't care what anyone thinks :) It's going to look good in my living room.

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Why so far?
 

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Why so far?
Well, it's a dealer Demo so it's way less expensive. Only about 350 miles on it. It's about $7k less!

Also I'll be down there anyway in El Centro. Got to go back to Mexico with my dad for more dental work in Mexicali. So fun! Maybe this time I can get better Nachos.
 

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This is the part that kills me. I made him over $700k last year trading options. You would think he could afford a local dentist. The man is stubborn.
 
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Yeah, I hardly ever use the weight kit also. It works just fine. Im sure the weight helps with the scrub a dub. It certainly makes it glide across the carpet like a Mack Truck.

Well it looks like I may be heading to San Diego to get my new R-18 Roctane. So exciting. Don't care what anyone thinks :) It's going to look good in my living room.

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Freaking Sec.8er!!
 
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Walling up my shop $3,050, spray foam the ceiling, $2,960, painting my house $1,250, junk removal of old jani and carpet cleaning shiate today $851. That is an expensive 2 weeks. Now for added heater to my heat pump.
 
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Walling up my shop $3,050, spray foam the ceiling, $2,960, painting my house $1,250, junk removal of old jani and carpet cleaning shiate today $851. That is an expensive 2 weeks. Now for added heater to my heat pump.
You should have bought a new motorcycle.
 

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The Phoenix will definitely be faster on those long hallways. The heavier head weight and stronger motor mean more aggressive cleaning in fewer passes. I've used it a few times and I've got no regrets so far
 
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