Is Phoenix faster than Vibe on commercial halls

[Meter Maid]

You need a ramp to load a Phoenix

There’s an easy method to load the Phoenix. I think Mike has a video on it.

It only weighs 18 pounds more than the Vibe

 

[Meter Maid]

For the Orbot to clean good, you have to strap on the weights, no matter what anyone tells you.

Then it weighs more than the Phoenix, unless you take the weights off each time.

 

[Kenny Hayes]

I use the Vibe to #rinse No need for weights

 

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[Charlie Lyman]

I owned an Orbot and I now have two Tops. I am 5'4" tall and I need back surgery. I have no problem lifting the Tops machine into my van. The orbot seemed more "awkward" to lift. The handle needed to be tilted back to fit int the van. I can lift the tops with one hand on the handle on the front and the other hand on the hook that holds the solution bottle and I lift it up to the floor of the van.
As for the difference in cleaning between the two: the orbot is smooth and easier to push. I think they clean about the same. The tops I can have numerous solution bottles filled and quickly switch them out when they need it. The orbot you have to refill the solution tank which is considerably slower. Another trivial thing is the tops machine will push the power cord out of the way. The orbot will want to wrap the cord around the driver.
Both machines are good. If I still owned an orbot I wouldn't replace it with a tops unless it was time to replace it. If I was buying a new machine and didn't own one already I would buy a tops. The only reason I got rid of my orbot is because it was sitting and a local guy needed one so i sold it. Now that I'm doing a lot more VLM, the tops is my choice.

 

[FredC]

I am 5'4" tall and I need back surgery.

Injuries from horse racing?

 

[Kenny Hayes]

I owned an Orbot and I now have two Tops. I am 5'4" tall and I need back surgery. I have no problem lifting the Tops machine into my van. The orbot seemed more "awkward" to lift. The handle needed to be tilted back to fit int the van. I can lift the tops with one hand on the handle on the front and the other hand on the hook that holds the solution bottle and I lift it up to the floor of the van.
As for the difference in cleaning between the two: the orbot is smooth and easier to push. I think they clean about the same. The tops I can have numerous solution bottles filled and quickly switch them out when they need it. The orbot you have to refill the solution tank which is considerably slower. Another trivial thing is the tops machine will push the power cord out of the way. The orbot will want to wrap the cord around the driver.
Both machines are good. If I still owned an orbot I wouldn't replace it with a tops unless it was time to replace it. If I was buying a new machine and didn't own one already I would buy a tops. The only reason I got rid of my orbot is because it was sitting and a local guy needed one so i sold it. Now that I'm doing a lot more VLM, the tops is my choice.

Actually, that was one of the better long posts I’ve read in a while seriously!

 

[Mikey P]

I owned an Orbot and I now have two Tops. I am 5'4" tall and I need back surgery. I have no problem lifting the Tops machine into my van. The orbot seemed more "awkward" to lift. The handle needed to be tilted back to fit int the van. I can lift the tops with one hand on the handle on the front and the other hand on the hook that holds the solution bottle and I lift it up to the floor of the van.
As for the difference in cleaning between the two: the orbot is smooth and easier to push. I think they clean about the same. The tops I can have numerous solution bottles filled and quickly switch them out when they need it. The orbot you have to refill the solution tank which is considerably slower. Another trivial thing is the tops machine will push the power cord out of the way. The orbot will want to wrap the cord around the driver.
Both machines are good. If I still owned an orbot I wouldn't replace it with a tops unless it was time to replace it. If I was buying a new machine and didn't own one already I would buy a tops. The only reason I got rid of my orbot is because it was sitting and a local guy needed one so i sold it. Now that I'm doing a lot more VLM, the tops is my choice.

Are you (having too) use the weight kit to get the Orbot to work as well as the TOPS?

 

[Charlie Lyman]

Are you (having too) use the weight kit to get the Orbot to work as well as the TOPS?

I never used the weight kit. The new owner never takes them off. I honestly don't VLM anything that's really dirty, so I can't speak to that comparison.