hogjowl
Idiot™
It was a joke Lee.
Don't take it personal.
Don't take it personal.
Mikey Juice...
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Mikey P
Administrator
Taf told me.
Ill let you egg heads argue about what causes brass corrosion. .
Ill let you egg heads argue about what causes brass corrosion. .
Shawn Forsythe
RIP
There is no argument, in matters of fact. Arguments exist only in matters of opinion. Just Google the three words; "Sodium Metasilicate Corrosion". You will see most, if not all, the hits describe the anti-corrosion properties of Metso as used in cleaning products. Silicates are used in most every cleaning formulation where equipment has reactive metals to be guarded, and pH is desired to be alkaline. It is even in most laundry detergents, to protect your washing machine's parts.
Anyone who seriously purported that Sodium Metasilicate is not used because it "causes corrosion", is by no means a credible person to be speaking on the relative merits of components in a cleaning formulation. The reason it may not be used is because of its buffered pH, or solubility, pH not being related to corrosion in this case.
He was either misunderstood, dead wrong, or can be forgiven for being just a salesman.
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hogjowl
Idiot™
I vote is on all of the above.
Mikey P
Administrator
Yeah yeah back off poindexter, he admits he was mistaken...
Art Kelley
Supportive Member
Put me on the list of interested users. I don't need a freebie; tell me the price and I'll test it. There are many jobs I do that are just area rugs and furniture where the Air Hog plus hooked to customer hot water is all I need. This sounds like an excellent powdered product to have that is oblivious to freeze thaw issues.
SamIam
Member
I think CTI uses it in pro powder and prozyme
BradFenstermaker
Member
Mike will this product do anything for urine dwellings? I shoulda named me comp UrineSteam. Lol life is good if blower exhaust is wee wee fragrant. Let me know I have a lot of repeat pet owners.
Mikey P
Administrator
PM Mr your address Art.
Too soon to say Brad but I would think so
Forsythe, in your what is the corrosive ingredient in Soap Free? The sodium percarbonate or the stpp?
Too soon to say Brad but I would think so
Forsythe, in your what is the corrosive ingredient in Soap Free? The sodium percarbonate or the stpp?
Shawn Forsythe
RIP
The Sodium Percarbonate, and to a lesser extent the STPP. If not for the addition of a chemical component to act specifically as corrosion inhibitor to the formulation, these would present a problem. This, amongst other things, is what sets Masterblend's product apart from some of the other surfactant free cleaning chemicals. We used to use a dinonylnaphthalenesulfonic acid based inhibitor for products needing a corrosion protector, that needed to be less alkaline by design (5th Gen Nylon and Natural fiber compatible).
Mikey P
Administrator
There are lots of forms of "powdered peroxide" are some less corrosive than others?
Shawn Forsythe
RIP
I suppose.Sodium Percarbonate is so unstable, releasing its oxygen with little to catalyze it. I have seen less using Sodium Perborate. Then again, perborate is much more temp stable. It takes 140 degrees F to really get perborate to effervesce.
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Mikey P
Administrator
used it on 3 jobs today..
So nice to add a mix to the chem jug and not have suds boiling all over. No bubbles or foam at all.
No issues or concerns to day.
Taf's chemist got back to me and says their SP is zinc coated (unlike other's) and along with the low pH there is no concern about this stuff being harsh on brass.
We'll see
So nice to add a mix to the chem jug and not have suds boiling all over. No bubbles or foam at all.
No issues or concerns to day.
Taf's chemist got back to me and says their SP is zinc coated (unlike other's) and along with the low pH there is no concern about this stuff being harsh on brass.
We'll see
Mikey P
Administrator
Marty and Art, I have your sample but I'm not sure when I'll be able to get to Fed Ex.
dealtimeman
Everyday is Saturday.
After All this testing for all these years by Mikey, I want to order a couple of cases ASAP.
CAn I post my cc info here and just expect to recieve some Mikey juice?
CAn I post my cc info here and just expect to recieve some Mikey juice?
hogjowl
Idiot™
No problem, Mikey.
I'm still waiting on my sample of Judson Juice from three years ago.
I'm still waiting on my sample of Judson Juice from three years ago.
Mikey P
Administrator
Art and Marty, you should get your test samples on Monday or Tuesday.
I sent you some of mine and it cost $36 to ship so please use it all.
12 ounces in your five gallon mix jugs for rinse.
If you want to try it as a pre spray use 2 ounces per gallon rtu
I sent you some of mine and it cost $36 to ship so please use it all.
12 ounces in your five gallon mix jugs for rinse.
If you want to try it as a pre spray use 2 ounces per gallon rtu
hogjowl
Idiot™
$36 is all it cost you?
If I'd known that, I wouldn't have asked you to sent any of it to me.
If I'd known that, I wouldn't have asked you to sent any of it to me.
Mikey P
Administrator
Edit that joke quick before any one sees it.
As it really sucked.
As it really sucked.
hogjowl
Idiot™
Joke?
Mikey P
Administrator
36 was for both btw..
Asshole.
Asshole.
Mikey P
Administrator
This stuff continues to impress..
My son used it as a pre spray on a college kid move out with great results.
My son used it as a pre spray on a college kid move out with great results.
hogjowl
Idiot™
I thought you just told me it was only so so as a prespray, and to use it as a rinse?
Mikey P
Administrator
Yeah..I thought it would be too tame but my kid went for it and was really impressed..
There is very little degreaser ability keep in mind. .
There is very little degreaser ability keep in mind. .
Mikey P
Administrator
Marty and Art, how goes it?
I need three more willing and able testers . Please PM me your shipping info. "Send me some" just don't cut it.
I need three more willing and able testers . Please PM me your shipping info. "Send me some" just don't cut it.
hogjowl
Idiot™
Weak as a prespray, and just how do you tell if it's a good rinse, or not?
Mixes well (fantastic visual).
Smells ok ... but not as good as Ultra Rinse
I would purchase it over DFC 105, which is what I have been using.
Mixes well (fantastic visual).
Smells ok ... but not as good as Ultra Rinse
I would purchase it over DFC 105, which is what I have been using.
Mikey P
Administrator
The only way to tell if a rinse is really doing it's job is either stopping by to take a peak and fell or wait till the next visit...or a complaint gawd forbid..
I would ask the testers to use this stuff on any two part jobs they may have.
I would ask the testers to use this stuff on any two part jobs they may have.
idreadnought
Supportive Member
ill take some to try as a rinse. I wouldn't be interested as a pre-spray but I am actually looking to change rinses. It seems we spend too much time dealing with the powdered rinses that i use now and I would like one that really did dissolve in water like you say. I was looking at liquid rinses for this exact reason. If you don't have my address pm me and I will give it to you
Mikey P
Administrator
Pm it on over. . Thanks
