Sorry I missed this one last night, Okinawa-Te Budokan under Master Michael Pecina, How is Renaldo doing? And Ken Lippton?, You might not know these guys. Have not seen either one in at least 5 years. Renaldo was engaged to Gracie's daughter in 2000 .He had just took the 2000 Champs. in Brazil when I meet him at my Do Jo, Great Guy and a hell of a fighter. Take care, Greg