Over PreSprayed, Under Rinsed

[steve_64]

Agreed

More than one rinse pass along always.
Or the king of flushers, the RVBH.

What ever came of that wrinkled carpet?

 

[Loren Egland]

So what was it that he did different?

I was not there during their cleaning but I have observed them clean in the past. So I am just speculating.

I used a a Steam Way Powermatic (bought used from Mikey several years ago) using a kerosene burner along with starting 50 feet 2.5 inch vac hose to 2 inch to the wand and 3/8 inch solution hose. My wand was a 5 jet placed close to the carpet Greenhorn with number 2 sized jets that are old so they may be worn open to a larger size by now. Used a Greenglide hole glide. Basically high flow combined with high heat.

I mixed my prespray strong and concentrated and applied it liberally. I was using liquid Prochem Ultrapak spiked with a little powdered Flex. I used Proline powder carpet extraction detergent by Masterblend with about a 9.5 pH through my machine.

I believe the other cleaner has a newer Cleanco van powered truck mount. He used to have a 4 jet wand with smaller jets than I used and the jets were placed much higher off the carpet than my Greenhorn. So not as much impact, flow, or heat at the carpet wand interface. Not sure if a glide was used. Likely also pretreated with a Hydroforce inline sprayer and surely a different juice mixture. Not able to say how fast the wand moved or how many strokes or what if anything was used through his machine. But the opportunity to completely erase the clean line was clear.

I flush a lot. I never just use water. Only rarely clean on the acid side.

The reason I obtained a picture the same day we cleaned is because I went back to pick up my 4 dryers before a meeting that evening.

 

[Mikey P]

What ever came of that wrinkled carpet?

it went back down but you could tell there was damage to the backing caused prior to cleaning

 

[Cleanworks]

I was not there during their cleaning but I have observed them clean in the past. So I am just speculating.

I used a a Steam Way Powermatic (bought used from Mikey several years ago) using a kerosene burner along with starting 50 feet 2.5 inch vac hose to 2 inch to the wand and 3/8 inch solution hose. My wand was a 5 jet placed close to the carpet Greenhorn with number 2 sized jets that are old so they may be worn open to a larger size by now. Used a Greenglide hole glide. Basically high flow combined with high heat.

I mixed my prespray strong and concentrated and applied it liberally. I was using liquid Prochem Ultrapak spiked with a little powdered Flex. I used Proline powder carpet extraction detergent by Masterblend with about a 9.5 pH through my machine.

I believe the other cleaner has a newer Cleanco van powered truck mount. He used to have a 4 jet wand with smaller jets than I used and the jets were placed much higher off the carpet than my Greenhorn. So not as much impact, flow, or heat at the carpet wand interface. Not sure if a glide was used. Likely also pretreated with a Hydroforce inline sprayer and surely a different juice mixture. Not able to say how fast the wand moved or how many strokes or what if anything was used through his machine. But the opportunity to completely erase the clean line was clear.

I flush a lot. I never just use water. Only rarely clean on the acid side.

The reason I obtained a picture the same day we cleaned is because I went back to pick up my 4 dryers before a meeting that evening.

Hard to beat a Powermatic with a Cleanco, no matter what chems are used.

 

[rick imby]

If you're not rinsing properly, you'll soon know it.

Unless you're an idiot who should be working for the government.

Don't be a hater on Mikey just because he got a Gov't contract....

 

[GeneMiller]

Cleaned a really nasty carpet for the second time. Full of piss and dirt. Heavy pre spray with peroxide and Odorcide. Cleaned it with the hoss at 600psi with no disc the first time. When I was finished I used the zipper to get it extra dry. When finished I left the zipper on the marble while rolling up, proud of the amazing job. When I moved the zipper a nice little puddle of urine was under neath. I spent a fair amount of time on the room but clearly it wasn't as clean as I thought.

This time I took twice as long. I ran the zipper just as before to dry it. This time no puddle of urine but the water wasn't clear. It still showed a little dirt.
Makes me wonder if soft water or ro water would have made a difference.

My last system was junked and never replaced. After the article in cleanfax I know it's time.

 

[Mikey P]

No RE Gene?

 

[Nate The Great]

He mentioned he has a Hoss... And didn't use a Disc when he cleaned the place....

 

[GeneMiller]

No RE Gene?

Like Nate said. Used the hoss both times. It was a good learning experience for my tech since I cleaned it and also for me.

 

[Travis Sonderegger]

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I had crazy soapy mess today.

Hotel has been doing their own work with terrible equipment.

Manager said the boys have been cleaning and cleaning and cleaning... But couldn't get it clean and the smell...

Ugh!

Site tube never really cleared up.

Cut the losses... Make it look way better and hope you got enough of their stuff out

I hate these ones so bad. I had a rug like that a while back. and a piss filled home the lady had used Oxi clean on time after time after time. horrible. Went through so much defoamer with my porty

 

[Total_Rookie]

Pre treat is determined by material type, and soil level. Rinse is also accordingly. My method is to apply pre treat to soiled area crb, and re hydrate with water (without soaking soil to the base) to properly hold in suspension until extraction rinse is applied. No need to overload the carpet with chems, but waste money as well.

 

[Ron Werner]

Interesting topic. I watch vids of guys screaming along with the wand ( various models) and even if they've lightly presprayed they arent rinsing enough. A wand, imo, is like a skill saw; you cant move it faster and expect it to work. Though many guys seem to make it work, at least gives the appearance.

I can make a vacuum plug too (pun intended :-) ); a vacuum can't be pushed faster and expected to efficiently work.

 

[Nate The Great]

Interesting topic. I watch vids of guys screaming along with the wand ( various models) and even if they've lightly presprayed they arent rinsing enough. A wand, imo, is like a skill saw; you cant move it faster and expect it to work. Though many guys seem to make it work, at least gives the appearance.

I can make a vacuum plug too (pun intended :-) ); a vacuum can't be pushed faster and expected to efficiently work.

Holy turtle vac, your still kickin!!! How ya been Ronnie?!?

 

[hogjowl]

Hey idiot.
Where you been?

 

[ruff]

Those bus-turds. Now he'll disappear for another two years.

Hey Ron, you still pre-vac?
Is it worth it?

 

[Nate The Great]

Those bus-turds. Now he'll disappear for another two years.

Hey Ron, you still pre-vac?
Is it worth it?

Ronald and I go way back, I've slept through his vacuum presentation at my first Mikeyfest... He's one of the few who actually cares about the work he does and I'm happy to call him a friend...

I'm curious how his HX is holding up on his Judson CanAm...

 

[Lint Basket]

I see Ron on facebook, and he spread his disease at ice quite well too.