Does this exist? I thought I saw it on another CC'r page a long time ago. It's a ramp designed for people or wheelchairs to to walk over the hoses with the hoses running underneath, designed in major public walk areas, I need something like this for an upcoming job in the downtown area.
Ramp for people in wheelchairs to ride over hoses on sidewalks?
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dgardner
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Didn't Ofer have this very issue?
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It exists.
You can get it from most suppliers. If I remember correctly Scott Warrington's outfit makes it. Bridgepoint.
Bought it a long time ago. It was about $250.00
You can get it from most suppliers. If I remember correctly Scott Warrington's outfit makes it. Bridgepoint.
Bought it a long time ago. It was about $250.00
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Yep.
That's the one. Not perfect but it works. As long as you don't use 2.5" hoses.
It will fit a 2" vacuum hose, a solution hose and the water hose. A bit tight but it will fit.
You'd still technically be in violation of the Americans With Disability act, but since you're not in S.F it will probably do just fine. And disabled people or moms pushing a baby cart really appreciate it.
That's the one. Not perfect but it works. As long as you don't use 2.5" hoses.
It will fit a 2" vacuum hose, a solution hose and the water hose. A bit tight but it will fit.
You'd still technically be in violation of the Americans With Disability act, but since you're not in S.F it will probably do just fine. And disabled people or moms pushing a baby cart really appreciate it.
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Be careful with that ramp. Cities have different codes for access.
It's not legal to put that ramp on a sidewalk in San Francisco.
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Ray - what's the solution for San Fran and other ADA obsessive municipalities?
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Hand rails needed for that ramp.
I run the hoses overhead when working on the court square here.
I run the hoses overhead when working on the court square here.
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It is not legal but we do it all the time, as the required solution is 100% not practical:
15 feet long ramp (5 angled, 5 flat and 5 angled) + Needs to have a railing on both sides + the traffic on the side walk needs to be funneled (with railings) towards the ramp on both sides, so that blind people can 'safely' get through.
A joke- Totally impractical.
15 feet long ramp (5 angled, 5 flat and 5 angled) + Needs to have a railing on both sides + the traffic on the side walk needs to be funneled (with railings) towards the ramp on both sides, so that blind people can 'safely' get through.
A joke- Totally impractical.
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Can you just barricade the sidewalk and prevent folks from passing at all?
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Park on the footpath/sidewalk & let them go around you. 
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Like I said - a barricade..... 
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I believe you'd still have to jump through hoops going overhead too... Scaffolding, ect..... Fk um I say...... Add the price of the ticket to the bill..... If you get sited, you can pay it.... If not, refund the money..... 
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You'd be right.
If the ticket wasn't $600.00
But they have not been ticketing now for a long time.
If the ticket wasn't $600.00
But they have not been ticketing now for a long time.
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We use this one. You can run 3-2.5" hoses under it. City officials liked it when they walked by one day but I really don't know if it's legal. I don't like using it because nothing is totally safe but it works for us when we need it. It was about $800 about 7 years ago. Made of stainless. Not sure who sells them now.
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Hey Steve, I know that place!!! I hope they don't owe you money as I heard they went out of business.
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Hoses yo doon need no stinkin hoses!
Get an OP machine.
Get an OP machine.
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Good eye, Brian. Yes, that was the Wafel House and, sadly, they are out of business but we're all paid up thank goodness.
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We use warning signs when our hoses cross a sidewalk.
I would be afraid of the liability of having a ramp, unless it was cleared by some regulatory body. All it takes is someone to hurt themselves using it and then you are open to a lawsuit.
I would be afraid of the liability of having a ramp, unless it was cleared by some regulatory body. All it takes is someone to hurt themselves using it and then you are open to a lawsuit.
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I thought hand rails and the ability to handle any possible mobility device were mandatory in SF/CA
In other words the GG bridge...
In other words the GG bridge...
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Are you saying that if someone, in spite of your warning signs, trips over your hoses there won't be a lawsuit?
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There is always a lawsuit.
Even when you're in the right, your insurance may just look at what it would cost them to defend it and offer them half.
Even when you're in the right, your insurance may just look at what it would cost them to defend it and offer them half.
Well...sheet! I wanted to do something like what Lee said but the sidewalk is slopped and will cause my idea to tip over. Those ramps aren't ADA compliant here in Commiefornia. I'm going to have my helper stand out there and verbally warn everyone and lift up the hoses for anyone that can't get over the hoses.
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Use metal pipe with 90° bends and 25-45 pd weight bench weights to hold it down... Or figure out a way to attach it to van using a tow hitch if you got one making like a hangman stand....
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Going overhead with the hose is BEST if you are going to be at a jobsite a long time. I made a Hose "Door Way" to hold the hose above ground made with 2 inch PVC pipe but no longer use it.
I use that same ramp in SF.--- Since we are seldom at one job site more then 2 hours---I hear we only have to make a reasonable attempt to solve the wheelchair problem. We are required to block the sidewalk and channel the pedestrians on to the ramp-- but this pisses more people off.
The Ramp will break apart at the hinge because it is only held together with 1/4 inch screws!!!
I guess the designer forgot it would be used by Carpet Cleaners.
I fixed it by using 1 inch flange steel rivets.
I use that same ramp in SF.--- Since we are seldom at one job site more then 2 hours---I hear we only have to make a reasonable attempt to solve the wheelchair problem. We are required to block the sidewalk and channel the pedestrians on to the ramp-- but this pisses more people off.
The Ramp will break apart at the hinge because it is only held together with 1/4 inch screws!!!
I guess the designer forgot it would be used by Carpet Cleaners.
I fixed it by using 1 inch flange steel rivets.
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Below is the 109 page regulation that Ofer and I have to deal with when setting up our hoses in SF--Most of it is only if we want to block a sidewalk or street lane completely.
https://www.sfmta.com/sites/default/files/pdfs/BlueBook8thEd_Accessible.pdf
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How long is that ramp? I would think the incline/decline is too steep and could cause tipping hazards for powered wheelchairs.
The yellow one can fit a 2.5 inch hose- but its not easy.
