Nate The Great
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Don't cut your waste tank or lid.. Use both to a "Y"... Then go 2.5" from there.. If you don't like it, then your not SOL...
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The best 2.5" hose. Where can I get it?
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Don't cut your waste tank or lid.. Use both to a "Y"... Then go 2.5" from there.. If you don't like it, then your not SOL...
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When I asked Amflex a few days ago if the hose was available from a more stable supplier they told me it was in stock and asked how much I need. So direct from Amflex may also be an option
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SamIam
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SamIam
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I would run 2 6 foot 2 inch hoses into a devastator type filter.
All these filters are made to order.
Then get a 2.5 inch lid towards the house.
I also carry lids on my silver bullet and devastator that have 2 2inch ports.
Every now and then we do upholstery and carpet at the same time.
All these filters are made to order.
Then get a 2.5 inch lid towards the house.
I also carry lids on my silver bullet and devastator that have 2 2inch ports.
Every now and then we do upholstery and carpet at the same time.
Desk Jockey
Member
One for each personality? Ole Sybil has a few.
Pioneer Floorcare
Member
Don't bother with 2.5". It is a big waste. Run 2x2" from your two ports to the back of a filter.
I'm doing that currently with 10' hoses, and I'm just wondering if a 50' 2.5 would be better.
Mikey P
Administrator
On our Vortex we run three 2" hoses (6") off the tank to a manifold with dual 2.5 ports, no lint filter. Then 50` of 2.5
On the AT we have two 2.5 (5") off the tank to a two 2.5 manifold, no filter. Then 50' of 2.5 to a reducer
On the 370, I run a five foot section of 2.5 to a Devpro, another 50' of 2.5 then reduced to 2"
It's all very worth it.
On the AT we have two 2.5 (5") off the tank to a two 2.5 manifold, no filter. Then 50' of 2.5 to a reducer
On the 370, I run a five foot section of 2.5 to a Devpro, another 50' of 2.5 then reduced to 2"
It's all very worth it.
Matt,
Yes and No,
What are your dry times? 1-4 hours there is not much going to be gained in that area.
Do you do apartments or second floor set ups where YOUR 42Dr lands in a awkward spot? ( second floor, staircase going up ) and if it does then you just set up 42dr at bottom and run 2" the rest of the way? If so then your not gaining anything really.
Are your cuffs AIR TIGHT ? More cuffs that are leaking in a 42dr setup is going to affect your actual lift at carpet....AT / VT tm's don't count they have soooo much cfm it doesn't matter.
This is another thing that opened my eyes to 2.5 vs 42dr
My older son was helping me....I was always onto him to SLOW DOWN with longer runs of 42dr you need to understand " LIFT LAG " becomes a real issue. Meaning that if the blower doing the work is too small, this set up is like adding more cubic feet to your waste tank....a bigger tank takes longer to put under vac than a smaller one....we actually got called back because we had carpet that wicked back due to to much water being left behind, he would just not slow down enough to keep the system under proper lift....
So I put 50' of 2.5 back on the van solved the problem the "LIFT LAG" was cut down enough to remove more of what he was putting down, he was still to fast but it got it back into more of the normal removal range.
If you are going to go 2.5 don't cheap O on the hose, I only know of AMFLEX and because I have used it I can tell you it is more flexable than some stock 2.0 that comes with some TM's. When I was all into this stuff the Amflex 2.5 was so fleaxable I ran it right to my wand ( I wouldn't do this now but I did at the time) The wrong 2.5 will BREAK YOU in a weeks time it is NOT easy to deal with and in the cold weather the coils as your rolling it up can flip and put a huge dent in a car that well you would have to pay for.....Its coiled strike is faster/ and as lethal as a King Cobra on a hot summer day!!!
Even if it is JUST to get distance unrolling and rolling onto the reel is a royal PITA, there have been many times my face and nuts have taken one for the team with some of the 2.5 I have now, I needed 2.5 and I got a good deal on it ( VWTM ) thinking ah it is just for flat run distance NOT SO like I said the wrong 2.5 is brutal.
What you will gain is faster LIFT LAG, faster set up times, and less likely to cheat on your setup ( not running 42dr due to awkward placement ) I have 75' of 2.0 that comes off reel first then when that comes off my 2.5 starts to come off, I have 50' of it broke into 25' sectons and I use what I need. This is on my PC legend and yes 2.5 is better than 42dr for this rig.
Yes and No,
What are your dry times? 1-4 hours there is not much going to be gained in that area.
Do you do apartments or second floor set ups where YOUR 42Dr lands in a awkward spot? ( second floor, staircase going up ) and if it does then you just set up 42dr at bottom and run 2" the rest of the way? If so then your not gaining anything really.
Are your cuffs AIR TIGHT ? More cuffs that are leaking in a 42dr setup is going to affect your actual lift at carpet....AT / VT tm's don't count they have soooo much cfm it doesn't matter.
This is another thing that opened my eyes to 2.5 vs 42dr
My older son was helping me....I was always onto him to SLOW DOWN with longer runs of 42dr you need to understand " LIFT LAG " becomes a real issue. Meaning that if the blower doing the work is too small, this set up is like adding more cubic feet to your waste tank....a bigger tank takes longer to put under vac than a smaller one....we actually got called back because we had carpet that wicked back due to to much water being left behind, he would just not slow down enough to keep the system under proper lift....
So I put 50' of 2.5 back on the van solved the problem the "LIFT LAG" was cut down enough to remove more of what he was putting down, he was still to fast but it got it back into more of the normal removal range.
If you are going to go 2.5 don't cheap O on the hose, I only know of AMFLEX and because I have used it I can tell you it is more flexable than some stock 2.0 that comes with some TM's. When I was all into this stuff the Amflex 2.5 was so fleaxable I ran it right to my wand ( I wouldn't do this now but I did at the time) The wrong 2.5 will BREAK YOU in a weeks time it is NOT easy to deal with and in the cold weather the coils as your rolling it up can flip and put a huge dent in a car that well you would have to pay for.....Its coiled strike is faster/ and as lethal as a King Cobra on a hot summer day!!!
Even if it is JUST to get distance unrolling and rolling onto the reel is a royal PITA, there have been many times my face and nuts have taken one for the team with some of the 2.5 I have now, I needed 2.5 and I got a good deal on it ( VWTM ) thinking ah it is just for flat run distance NOT SO like I said the wrong 2.5 is brutal.
What you will gain is faster LIFT LAG, faster set up times, and less likely to cheat on your setup ( not running 42dr due to awkward placement ) I have 75' of 2.0 that comes off reel first then when that comes off my 2.5 starts to come off, I have 50' of it broke into 25' sectons and I use what I need. This is on my PC legend and yes 2.5 is better than 42dr for this rig.
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I think, from your description, what I feel I need more is lift on hose runs 150' and over. When I clean real plush carpet on a long hose run, it seems like it's not getting enough lift, due to the sound of the suction in the wand. It gets a lot quieter, making me go a lot slower, because I feel the suction needs attention. So I'm thinking, if I hook up a 2.5" hose 50ft to my waste tank, then the 150ft hose runs should be better.
Yes it will help, your TM is now fighting flow of the hose at that distance, your Vac Relief Valve may be even opening due to it. Blower has to breath and if the hose is putting a load then it will start pulling air at the VRV.
hogjowl
Idiot™
hogjowl
Idiot™
If you've already started smiling and talking to yourself in the mirror, it's too late.
Pioneer Floorcare
Member
Matt, if 25' is enough I will give you my orange amflex. Just cover the shipping.
I'll take it. But please let me pay you for the hose also
Larry Cobb
Member
A good point Tom raised on LIFT:
Make sure that your relief valve is set to 15" or max for your TM when you seal it off at the truck..
We run our TM's @ 17" for very long hose runs (300-400 ft).
Sometimes we even use an electric booster (39#) at the end of a very long run to raise the lift levels up considerably.
http://www.cobbcarpet.com/zen/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=85&products_id=4823
SamIam
Member
I would, but I can't touch the hg set not higher than 12 until my warranty expires. So, in the meantime, a 2.5" hose should help. That's at least what I'm thinking.
Larry Cobb
Member
Your blower Is Designed for more than 12" hg.
I would have some direct questions as to why they limit the extraction potential
to that level ?
That low maximum lift is contributing to your performance at 150 ft.
P.S. Mikey stated that he raised his SS370 max. lift on his new TM.
I would have some direct questions as to why they limit the extraction potential
to that level ?
That low maximum lift is contributing to your performance at 150 ft.
P.S. Mikey stated that he raised his SS370 max. lift on his new TM.
Pioneer Floorcare
Member
My CDS has the same blower and pump. I run 14.5"
hogjowl
Idiot™
Mikey's TM would be covered if he ran it off in a river. This guy might be screwed if he followed it to the letter.
Big Jim
Member
Hey Russ I have the same cleanco truckmount setup that you do. I run 2 8 foot sections of 2 inch hose to the Devastator that has a double 2 inch intake on the truck mount side. On the other side of the Devastator is a 2.5 inch Outlet. The nice thing is if you have a lot of 2 inch hose you can continue to use it directly to the truck mount if necessary for something like a water damage extraction and you're not modifying the top of the cover of the waste tank.I'm going to 2.5" too. I've had 100' of it sitting in the shop for a year now.
Devastator Tom allowed me to swap the 2" setup I won in Nashville for a 2.5" version. It came in this week.
What's the best way to get 2, 2.0" ports from the top of my Cleanco waste tank to 1, 2.5" port on the Devastator?
Why wait for customers to complain about your work, before you push forward to become a better cleaner?
Russ T.
Supportive Member
Thanks Jim. Tom just sent me a shiny new Devastator that's 2.5 on both ends.
My filter box is at the back of my van with 3 two inch ports. Ive attached 2 6 or 8 ft sections of 2 inch to them that run to a y mounted beside my vac reel. That y has 2 two inch in and one 2.5 inch out. On my vac reel I have 3 50ft sections of 2.5 and one 50ft section of 2 inch so I'm always running 2 inch my last 50ft but everything else is 2.5
Cleanworks
Moderator
The vacuum you get standing at the truck, sealing off the vac port may be a lot different than what you are getting with 200 feet of hose hooked up and the wand on the carpet. You have a loss of suction at the wand/carpet interface and from your hose cuffs. You should have some else operate the wand and go stand at the truck and see what you are getting.
