The Future of the Carpet Cleaning Industry is Getting Closer

[Mardie]

Re: The Future of the Carpet Cleaning Industry is Getting Cl

Propane powered TMs is a very good start for this industry. Aside from the lower maintenance and operational cost and to a longer lasting and more reliable motors i would say the biggest benefit would be the environmental issues.

The next biggest thing TMs could do is to get rid of the heat in their cleaning process with better quality chemistry. Cold water wash chemicals are available and perform on par with hot water cleaning. (clean is clean) You TM guys are always comparing your method to doing laundry. So if TIDE and SUNLIGHT can do cold water wash why cant you.

 

[Mike Draper]

Re: The Future of the Carpet Cleaning Industry is Getting Cl

Propane powered TMs is a very good start for this industry. Aside from the lower maintenance and operational cost and to a longer lasting and more reliable motors i would say the biggest benefit would be the environmental issues.

The next biggest thing TMs could do is to get rid of the heat in their cleaning process with better quality chemistry. Cold water wash chemicals are available and perform on par with hot water cleaning. (clean is clean) You TM guys are always comparing your method to doing laundry. So if TIDE and SUNLIGHT can do cold water wash why cant you.

you obviously have no experience cleaning carpet.

 

[Mardie]

Re: The Future of the Carpet Cleaning Industry is Getting Cl

Propane powered TMs is a very good start for this industry. Aside from the lower maintenance and operational cost and to a longer lasting and more reliable motors i would say the biggest benefit would be the environmental issues.

The next biggest thing TMs could do is to get rid of the heat in their cleaning process with better quality chemistry. Cold water wash chemicals are available and perform on par with hot water cleaning. (clean is clean) You TM guys are always comparing your method to doing laundry. So if TIDE and SUNLIGHT can do cold water wash why cant you.

you obviously have no experience cleaning carpet.

Why do you say that? Although it is true that the heat FORMULATED chemicals HWE is using works just fine that dose not say that using chemicals FORMULATED for cold water cleaning would not work just as well. The only problem i see with this is that it would take away from your wow factor marketing aspect and you TM guys could not live with that.

 

[Dolly Llama]

Re: The Future of the Carpet Cleaning Industry is Getting Cl

Although it is true that the heat FORMULATED chemicals HWE is using works just fine that dose not say that using chemicals FORMULATED for cold water cleaning would not work just as well.

ummm.. Mardie , not they don't ..or we'd all be using them if cost effective .
Which mean not only price RTU, but TIME and steps involved to make cold chems work "just as well"

The only problem i see with this is that it would take away from your wow factor marketing aspect and you TM guys could not live with that.

I keep hoping you'll eventually stumble onto a correct thought sooner or later....
But it whaddn't this time...... J/K

It's about "efficiency" Mardie .
How to the do the BEST job "efficiently"


..L.T.A.

 

[Jimbo]

Re: The Future of the Carpet Cleaning Industry is Getting Cl

I'd love to be a fly on the wall when MaRdie discovers how well hot water cleans.

 

[renegade_cowboy]

Re: The Future of the Carpet Cleaning Industry is Getting Cl

Propane powered TMs is a very good start for this industry. Aside from the lower maintenance and operational cost and to a longer lasting and more reliable motors i would say the biggest benefit would be the environmental issues.

The next biggest thing TMs could do is to get rid of the heat in their cleaning process with better quality chemistry. Cold water wash chemicals are available and perform on par with hot water cleaning. (clean is clean) You TM guys are always comparing your method to doing laundry. So if TIDE and SUNLIGHT can do cold water wash why cant you.

you obviously have no experience cleaning carpet.

Why do you say that? Although it is true that the heat FORMULATED chemicals HWE is using works just fine that dose not say that using chemicals FORMULATED for cold water cleaning would not work just as well. The only problem i see with this is that it would take away from your wow factor marketing aspect and you TM guys could not live with that.

You know little about this industry huh? Hopefully one day you can afford a machine that you currently bash, so you can see the nonsense you are spewing.

 

[Royal Man]

Re: The Future of the Carpet Cleaning Industry is Getting Cl

Here is a BTU chart.

It also shows why ethanol is a rip off.

http://alternativefuels.about.com/od/re ... /a/gge.htm

 

[woodsey]

Re: The Future of the Carpet Cleaning Industry is Getting Cl

I have read all of these threads and nothing has been said about future fuel prices and the fact that the USA is the Saudi Arabia of natural gas. It wont be long before we will have no choice but to use natural gas because it may be all there is available at a reasonable price if the middle east blows up. So Less may be more right than he knows. Propane and natural gas will be the future of alot more than just the carpet cleaning industry. I agree with Less but for slightly different reasons. The question is not if but when or how soon? Strange thing is that the transition will not be a bad thing or all that hard to do. The companies that fall behind when the transition starts will not survive.

 

[Mardie]

Re: The Future of the Carpet Cleaning Industry is Getting Cl

Although it is true that the heat FORMULATED chemicals HWE is using works just fine that dose not say that using chemicals FORMULATED for cold water cleaning would not work just as well.

ummm.. Mardie , not they don't ..or we'd all be using them if cost effective .
Which mean not only price RTU, but TIME and steps involved to make cold chems work "just as well"

The only problem i see with this is that it would take away from your wow factor marketing aspect and you TM guys could not live with that.

I keep hoping you'll eventually stumble onto a correct thought sooner or later....
But it whaddn't this time...... J/K

It's about "efficiency" Mardie .
How to the do the BEST job "efficiently"


..L.T.A.

If you read my statement you will see that i was stating that getting rid of the heat in the cleaning process would be a major advancement and you or anybody else cant deny that.I did not say get rid of the heat now because you could. First of all your chemical companies would have to get on board and you know that wont happen because trying to sell a cold water detergent to a TM operator would be like trying to sell ice to an eskimo.

You TM guys sure are a sensitive bunch

 

[Mardie]

Re: The Future of the Carpet Cleaning Industry is Getting Cl

Caduceus

Go back and read what i have wrote and show me just one statement where i bashed HWE. Everything i wrote was in direct relation to the title of this thread.

 

[Mardie]

Re: The Future of the Carpet Cleaning Industry is Getting Cl

I'd love to be a fly on the wall when MaRdie discovers how well hot water cleans.

I have never said or implied that hot water will not clean.

 

[Mardie]

Re: The Future of the Carpet Cleaning Industry is Getting Cl

I have read all of these threads and nothing has been said about future fuel prices and the fact that the USA is the Saudi Arabia of natural gas. It wont be long before we will have no choice but to use natural gas because it may be all there is available at a reasonable price if the middle east blows up. So Less may be more right than he knows. Propane and natural gas will be the future of alot more than just the carpet cleaning industry. I agree with Less but for slightly different reasons. The question is not if but when or how soon? Strange thing is that the transition will not be a bad thing or all that hard to do. The companies that fall behind when the transition starts will not survive.

Dont worry about the oil in the middle east. Your Canadian nabour has enough oil and natural gas to supply north america forever.

 

[Dolly Llama]

Re: The Future of the Carpet Cleaning Industry is Getting Cl

If you read my statement you will see that i was stating that getting rid of the heat in the cleaning process would be a major advancement and you or anybody else cant deny that.I did not say get rid of the heat now because you could.

AHH...OK ...OOOPs.....my mistake yes, I really clean up pet shit for a living Dad..

First of all your chemical companies would have to get on board and you know that wont happen because trying to sell a cold water detergent to a TM operator would be like trying to sell ice to an eskimo.

geeze, Mardie , you still ain't gettin' it right .
Why, pray tell, wouldn't chem makers want to get on-board?
They're about making a profit ..when/if they can formulate cold cleaning to be AS EFFECTIVE without heat...AND be similar in cost RTU, they'll make a bundle dude...
cause no TM owner in his right mind would WANT to use heat if it made no difference in efficiency and efficacy .
you see, we're about making profit too..
TMs would be cheaper to buy initially if no need for heat, AND there'd be no need for additional fuel costs to heat water or HX maintenance/repair

it's all matter of dollars and sense

You TM guys sure are a sensitive bunch

hardly KMA! ...it's more about helping a friend see how misguided his thought process is .
I know his assumptions and perceptions are JUST PLAIN WRONG


..L.T.A.

 

[Sharky]

I would like to know why are all the repair persons near me telling me to stay away from the Prochem Peak Gtx ?

 

[BIG WOOD]

I would like to know why are all the repair persons near me telling me to stay away from the Prochem Peak Gtx ?

The same reason you should stay way from the Boxxer XL. The engine is junk.

 

[BIG WOOD]

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I had a visit today from Tom with Manchester Tanks. He is their OEM representative. We are designing custom high-volume propane tanks for regular sized vans and specially-designed high-volume tanks for sprinter vans.

Another issue that I am addressing with the use of an propane system is the convenience of refilling your tank. We are having a custom propane tank designed that will hold 100 gallons of propane. You will be able to fill your own tanks on site. This will make keeping your tanks full very convenient. Your local propane supply company will simply top off the tank every 30 days just like if you were heating your home with propane. When you buy propane this way, it is a lot less expensive at a cost of around $1.90 to $2.25 per gallon.

The truckmount in the photograph is a propane-powered TNT. This unit has a factory propane 25 HP Kohler engine and with the use of the #4 Little Giant heater, this unit will consume 2 gallons of propane per hour with the performance of sustained 240 degrees on a high-flow wand under commercial carpet cleaning conditions.

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Judson, where'd you go? We have so many questions to ask

 

[Mikey P]

Removed my comment due to Marty being an idiot.


A great discussion though

Unfortunately Les is a true southerner and will forever hold a grudge against me for letting Cordell run the forum.

If you have questions I'm assuming he still answers his phone and probably has some other Facebook presents, possibly.

Love to seeing Bill Bruders pop up in this.
A nice reminder to reflect back on the days when his passions for bettering the industry were so dominant.

 

[hogjowl]

That’s my job here

 

[Sharky]

The same reason you should stay way from the Boxxer XL. The engine is junk.

Is it a Head Gasket issue?

 

[Sharky]

The same reason you should stay way from the Boxxer XL. The engine is junk.

Anyone selling Legend gt or Sapphire truckmount and van within 250 miles of Washington D.C.?

 

[BIG WOOD]

Is it a Head Gasket issue?

the peak has head gasket issues. the boxer xl is a briggs that has vibration issues

 

[Kenny Hayes]

Did the Peak have the 24 Kohler?

 

[Cleanworks]

Did the Peak have the 24 Kohler?

I thought the Peak had a Kawasaki engine. At least in some years.

 

[Jim Pemberton]

Anyone selling Legend gt or Sapphire truckmount and van within 250 miles of Washington D.C.?

I know of a Rage and a 370 in the Pittsburgh area. Send me a message if you’re interested.