rhyde
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i think the issue with silk as is the case with can be with wool is mosture levle
The World's Greatest Rug ID Thread.
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Mikey P
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I brought these in today.
White one is a Ikea special, cost about $79.
White one is a Ikea special, cost about $79.
Ron Lippold
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man mikey you are getting real good a rug identification any ideas on the first one, I say uhwe
rhyde
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Back to the topic of Tibetan rugs made in Nepal vs. Tibetan rugs made in Northern on the first page India here are a couple of pics
The first rug is a Nepalese Tibetan rug the back has a rough look because it's hand spun and plied yarns the weaving technique is slightly different too which i won't address here
This is an Indian Tibetan. the wool is machine spun singles not plied so the knots are slightly taller and smoother on the back and knots are more definable
The first rug is a Nepalese Tibetan rug the back has a rough look because it's hand spun and plied yarns the weaving technique is slightly different too which i won't address here
This is an Indian Tibetan. the wool is machine spun singles not plied so the knots are slightly taller and smoother on the back and knots are more definable
Mikey P
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Alright Randy what do we have.
This bastard browned like Chavez on Cinco de Mayo.
This bastard browned like Chavez on Cinco de Mayo.
Harry Myers
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Is that a chinese.
Mikey P
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The owner cut the fringe off unfortunately.
rhyde
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No it's Indian the ends need to be secured * remember the star thats a money maker
Mikey P
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Secured?
Why?
I'm not having a lay issue with this one, just some browning.
I let the chimp flush this one untended and I think he didn't get enough of the shampoo out.
the other 11 rugs came out sweet., some fringe browning but the rugs are bright and fluffy.
Why?
I'm not having a lay issue with this one, just some browning.
I let the chimp flush this one untended and I think he didn't get enough of the shampoo out.
the other 11 rugs came out sweet., some fringe browning but the rugs are bright and fluffy.
rhyde
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it appears nothing is holding the end together but the header on the salvage and that’s starting to unravel or so it looks in the pic steaming it without the steam
Luis Gomez
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I don't know much about where they are made I just clean them, but the owner of this one paid $60.000.00[attachment=2:1uqmknd8]001.JPG[/attachment:1uqmknd8]
rhyde
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thats about 235.00 Sq ft. abit too high to pay for a custom tibetan rugs
The Great Oz
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We've had a couple of customers bring in Tibetans made with all silk pile. They also reported paying in the $60,000 range.
One was all white, with severe traffic soiling, dog oil and a few urine stains. You have real money when you can abuse a rug that cost that much.
Mike,
I'd recommend seeing if the customer would agree to turning what's left of the fringe on the Indo-Persian under and securing it with latex. These typically don't have much of a resale value so you wouldn't be wrecking the value of the rug.
One was all white, with severe traffic soiling, dog oil and a few urine stains. You have real money when you can abuse a rug that cost that much.
Mike,
I'd recommend seeing if the customer would agree to turning what's left of the fringe on the Indo-Persian under and securing it with latex. These typically don't have much of a resale value so you wouldn't be wrecking the value of the rug.
Mikey P
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Where can I get that type of Latex?
Harry Myers
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Are you talking about the kelim unravelling. You would want to sew that with a overcast stitch. Bryan Why not overcast it . I know the value isnt there but doesn't adhesive being used on a rug wrong. Mikey you can get that adhesive from your local carpet supply house
The Great Oz
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MIke,
You might not want to take on that rug as your first. The foundation is stiff enough that you may have to steam and pound the end to get the kilim to fold before you can glue it.
Harry,
I used to have that perspective (sew only) but with the volume of inexpensive hand-knotted rugs that have little resale value coupled with the owner's refusal to spend the money for hand work, I've eased away from that a bit. Once I started seeing new rugs with kilim glued under and that the fringes had obviously been cut off somewhere after manufacture I realized that contemporary rugs don't have fringe; it's out of style.
We'll insist on hand work on some rugs, and give the customer options on others. For example, a 9x12 Bokhara could be a rug that fits nicely in a particular home, but would sell used for $100. That rug either gets a machine-sewn fringe or has the fringe turned under, and more often than not the price of glue is what they want. I put the average Indo-Persian in the same group.
You might not want to take on that rug as your first. The foundation is stiff enough that you may have to steam and pound the end to get the kilim to fold before you can glue it.
Harry,
I used to have that perspective (sew only) but with the volume of inexpensive hand-knotted rugs that have little resale value coupled with the owner's refusal to spend the money for hand work, I've eased away from that a bit. Once I started seeing new rugs with kilim glued under and that the fringes had obviously been cut off somewhere after manufacture I realized that contemporary rugs don't have fringe; it's out of style.
We'll insist on hand work on some rugs, and give the customer options on others. For example, a 9x12 Bokhara could be a rug that fits nicely in a particular home, but would sell used for $100. That rug either gets a machine-sewn fringe or has the fringe turned under, and more often than not the price of glue is what they want. I put the average Indo-Persian in the same group.
Mikey P
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No kidding, it's very stiff.
Ken Snow
RIP
You can buy latex glue by the gallon (or smaller sizes) at any carpet supply store. Buy a gallon and seal it tight after using and it will last you a while.
harryhides
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Here's a rug that I saw in the Wheelwright museum in Santa Fe, last week.
Ron Lippold
RIP
Tony is that a Maria chavez or a trujillio rug.
Ron Lippold
RIP
Hey there rug gurus tell me what you guys know about these.
Ron Lippold
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anyone
Randy
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roro
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Mikey P
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Here's a good one.
Machine made in Turkey.
a 50/50 blend of wool and.....?
Machine made in Turkey.
a 50/50 blend of wool and.....?
rhyde
Member
the link explaines it all
they are making machine made rugs in Iran too
they are making machine made rugs in Iran too
Mikey P
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Alright boys what have we got here?
I love the random pattern of this 4 by 5.
Tell me its special.
I love the random pattern of this 4 by 5.
Tell me its special.
sweendogg
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bump and one more. Lady said she purchased for $80.00 at an estate sale. Suspected of being over 60 years old. Definatly shows its age. We are thinking this might be an afghan... or are we dead wrong?
Harry Myers
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I am thinking Rons can be an Isfahan .
rhyde
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Mikey you little rug is copy of a late 19th century Wagireh (Sampler rug) it’s made in Turkey several produces make similar pieces Woven legends, Oritop & Asia minor it should have a label on the back.
Sweeny’s rug,
It could be Afghani or made in North eastern Iran it looks structurally it looks Baluchi but it has a Turkoman design
Sweeny’s rug,
It could be Afghani or made in North eastern Iran it looks structurally it looks Baluchi but it has a Turkoman design
sweendogg
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Sounds like I was pretty close, those were the two regions I was bouncing back and fourth between! Thanks!!
