What has been your end of lease experience with Butler?

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I've had that happen also, minus the dog shit though.... My mom confronted him off the balcony while doing a 6 floor commercial hallways... I hear the yelling, I look at the guy and ask if he touched my machine.... Then I flew down the 2 flights of stairs and the guy took off running... I was down to fight... Dickheads...
 
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Tony Wilson

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20th year with slide-ins and open doors. Never so much as a missing furniture block. Not to say it couldn't happen tomorrow but not my biggest concern to date.
 
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We've run Butlers since 80's never cleaned with all the doors closed. We Don't with the Prochem units either.

No fans but we do pop the hood on the Butlers when over 100 degrees in the Summer. Cops do the same with there vehicles here too. Our heat and humidity is just awful.
 

hogjowl

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It never happened to me either. Even after 26 years running slide-ins.

But I didn’t want to be like you idiots and make the switch AFTER my tools were stolen!
 

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I asked Butler about the popped engine hood and they categorically stated that it is actually bad for the machine, as their added fan is designed to work with the hood closed. When open it will actually generate less cooling.

But then again, grass watchers from Topeka are an all together different breed.
 

Desk Jockey

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We've had too many water pump/radiator issues not to. I'm not sure why but just assume it's our weather. ??? Could be the GMC/Chevy???

Or maybe because we don't close our doors? :winky:
 

Cleanworks

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Keeping the hood closed usually adds to the cooling system. Opening the hood defeats the purpose, or so I've been told.
 
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Newman

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and some room to pick up area rugs.

This is a drawback with the Butler. You can not get a rolled and prepared for delivery 8 x 10 to fit, even in an extended van.

In 2001 the previous owner of my company bought a White Magic Pro 1200 instead of a butler solely based on rug carrying capacity.
 

steve_64

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The engine is cooled by the fan pulling fresh air through the radiator. That air is heated and needs to be removed from the enginge compartment or the fan will start pulling hot air and reduce the ability for engine to cool.

Since the van is designed to displace this air through motion, as it sits idling the temps go up. This is bad for the trans power steering and rubber parts.

I open the hood on hot days or long jobs.
 
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This is a drawback with the Butler. You can not get a rolled and prepared for delivery 8 x 10 to fit, even in an extended van.

In 2001 the previous owner of my company bought a White Magic Pro 1200 instead of a butler solely based on rug carrying capacity.


8X10 is no problem, even 12 are not bad I stick them in the side and poke them between the seat. It becomes a problem when you are pick up 3 or more good sized rugs.

They do make a rug carrier and that is what I plan on getting.
 
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Mark Saiger

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Ok....well, time to set this a bit straight on cooling of the Butler...

First....DO NOT RUN WITH THE VAN HOOD OPEN...

Butler already takes all this into account.

They modify the front air intake...change up the fan to a larger flex fan...put on a Non Thermal Fan clutch to always spinning and cooling....

They also put on a smaller alternator if really want to know things...well at least order them from the factory with smaller alternator so the Clutch for the Butler is always straight and never need greasing.

Back to the cooling also and fan belts...they run a double belt so you don't have to worry about there being a problem with a single Serpentine Belt needing to be perfectly in line all the time and keep spinning the fan and other parts.

The fan system is meant to keep the transmission, Fuel pump, motor of course and other parts cool with that hood closed.

Butler also has a special compound belt made to handle high heat situations...

I ran my Van in Vegas at the Mikey's Fest pretty much wide open on high and cleaning and chugging in 110 degree heat for 3 days...4 hours each day non stop...

Butler takes into consideration all these conditions....

So I repeat....DO NOT RUN WITH THE VAN HOOD OPEN...

OK?!?!?! :)
 

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There's no humidity in Vegas. It gets so thick here you need a machete. :winky:

Butttt we will give it a try next year. :biggrin:
 
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Russ T.

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These mods were even considered in ‘02.

Love it.

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hogjowl

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I could go on and on, but the best example is you opening the hood when Butler specifically says not to.
Idiot
 

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