Where are all the Aero Techs?

[GeneMiller]

The 870 leaves the carpet just as dry running one or two zippers. The heat doesn't vary, and it's consistent. I can't tell when one hose is pulled off but I'm sure their is a difference. It hasn't seen as much dual as it could have , because of employee issues, but it will now that the new guy is trained. It clearly has better heat than the aero tech but I'm sure they will fix that. I doubt it has the same air flow , but more than enough. If timing had been different I would choose the aero tech. I'm curious to see how a ford engine compares to the nissan for reliability. It had zero engine problems , except excessive oil leaking.

 

[GeneMiller]

Gene, I carry 400 ft of hose on the reel. I have 200 ft of 2.5 plus 200 ft of 2". It has to be put on tight but it will fit. Early next year I will be raising the roof in the box by 10", I will never order another truck the standard height. I have a roll up door on the back and it is literally a pain in the neck.View attachment 10357

I built mine to 6'2" so I could stand up straight. At the time I didn't know they were only 5' inside. I had only seen the picture.

 

[hurricanecc]

How much hose?

I dont recall checking suction with two 150 runs.

Atlanta will be the best MF ever.

Fred, Chavez and Kellie will be there.

Mike, I've seen the sapphire tour video and I'm leaning towards the 870, but I'm also considering the Everest 650hp, to replace my thermal wave 2. I know your an aero man, what's your take on these two slide ins?

 

[Mikey P]

Welcome!
What is your goal with a big machine?
Dual wanding?
Single wand but 240° at wand all the time?
250 foot hose runs on a cery regular basis?

Or some other reason a "regular" truckmount won't suffice?

 

[JS41035]

Big machines make carpet more clean.

 

[hogjowl]

How do you spell facetious?

 

[hurricanecc]

I also like the option of 2500psi with hot water, which they advertise. Would be a nice option in the back pocket for add ons

 

[hurricanecc]

Well, I've been cleaning on my own for about 18 years "part time/ full time"and I'm retiring as a corrections officer in two years and my thermal wave is getting old and I haven't been impressed with its hard to reach repair design, or suction, etc. So I'm looking to get my ducks in a row so that I can go full throttle when I'm done with the jail. I'm thinking a dual wand, so that I can have a worker with me to speed up the process while also training him as we go. I think like anyone on here thinks, I'd like heat all day long with two zippers and suction to match. I don't want to go smaller than what I have and be upset with the performance. I'm a buy once, cry once kind of shopper, go big or go home I guess. I've been partial to the 870 because of the advertisement saying hot water at 2500 psi. Not sure how realistic that is, but sounds like a nice thing to have in the back pocket for possible add ones

 

[Mikey P]

I don't know of a slide in hotter than the 870.



Here are the results from our testing last year

All things being equal.

Everest 12 flow 210
6 Flow 225

Butler 12 flow 185
6 flow 200

El Diablo 12 flow 210 fuel fired
6 flow 240

Cleanco 12 flow 175
6 flow 190

Sapphire Scientific
370 12 flow 120
6 flow- not tested

570 12 flow 185
6 flow 210

1200 SE 12 flow 180
6 flow 200

870 12 flow 225
6 flow 230

Aero tech
12 flow 250
6 flow 248


Hydra Master 575
12 flow 195
6 flow 170

Hydra Master direct drive 220 12 flow with their gauge
12 flow 175
6 flow 180

Hydrmaster 423
12 flow 150
6 flow 185

 

[hurricanecc]

I don't know of a slide in hotter than the 870.



Here are the results from our testing last year

All things being equal.

Everest 12 flow 210
6 Flow 225

Butler 12 flow 185
6 flow 200

El Diablo 12 flow 210 fuel fired
6 flow 240

Cleanco 12 flow 175
6 flow 190

Sapphire Scientific
370 12 flow 120
6 flow- not tested

570 12 flow 185
6 flow 210

1200 SE 12 flow 180
6 flow 200

870 12 flow 225
6 flow 230

Aero tech
12 flow 250
6 flow 248


Hydra Master 575
12 flow 195
6 flow 170

Hydra Master direct drive 220 12 flow with their gauge
12 flow 175
6 flow 180

Hydrmaster 423
12 flow 150
6 flow 185

I'd imagine that the 870 probably has the strongest blower too. Thanks for the info, I think I'll be hitting Nashville.

 

[Mikey P]

Same blower as the Everest, GD 4.10

Justin will have his very sweet 870 set up there. We'll be dual wanding the Autism center, carpet and tile.


Should be also have a running Everest, Aerotech, El Diablo and something new from Hydramaster.

 

[JS41035]

The Everest and the 870 are both great machines. I had such a good experience with the larger water cooled Nissan engines that I have a hard time going back to smaller engines. The Ford seems like a winner. As far as dual wanding, I don't do as much as a lot of others do. But I do run dual spinners. The 870 is amazing in that scenario.
But that being said. Buy the unit that is the most efficient and comfortable for what you do 90% of the time.

 

[SamIam]

Same blower as the Everest, GD 4.10

Justin will have his very sweet 870 set up there. We'll be dual wanding the Autism center, carpet and tile.


Should be also have a running Everest, Aerotech, El Diablo and something new from Hydramaster.

The prochem has a Denver Gardner tl650 vacuum pump

The SS870 has a Euros ZG 100 blower

 

[Chris A]

I don't know of a slide in hotter than the 870.



Here are the results from our testing last year

All things being equal.

Everest 12 flow 210
6 Flow 225

Butler 12 flow 185
6 flow 200

El Diablo 12 flow 210 fuel fired
6 flow 240

Cleanco 12 flow 175
6 flow 190

Sapphire Scientific
370 12 flow 120
6 flow- not tested

570 12 flow 185
6 flow 210

1200 SE 12 flow 180
6 flow 200

870 12 flow 225
6 flow 230

Aero tech
12 flow 250
6 flow 248


Hydra Master 575
12 flow 195
6 flow 170

Hydra Master direct drive 220 12 flow with their gauge
12 flow 175
6 flow 180

Hydrmaster 423
12 flow 150
6 flow 185

How did you guys set up the test? Like how long on the trigger etc?

 

[SamIam]

From a blower tech sheet the 650 looks to pull 490 cfm at 3125 rpm @13hg

The 870 about 530 cfm @ 14 hg 3600 rpm.

 

[Mark Saiger]

How did you guys set up the test? Like how long on the trigger etc?

We had the machines all warmed up best could be... Did some on the trigger, some off the trigger.... And also holding wide open for long period of time.

Also tried to ask what would be best for each machine to try to get the best numbers possible out of each unit being tested.

 

[todg]

Just curious...If you do own a Aerotech how much money do you generate @ year? And are you an owner/operator or larger?

 

[encapman]

Didn't Aero Tech sell a bunch of TMs to some large janitorial contract company? I saw one in action in Las Vegas a few years back.

I thought I heard they went to Butlers or something else. I just wonder where all the Monster TMs seem to have gone.

Wait. I thought you said AEROSTAR.

 

[todg]

I've run my 870 with 2 -150 ft setups, no problem.

I like your TV commercial...One observation I made is you said "we're an honest business"...I say I'm honest, but I ain't working for FREE!!! LOL

 

[todg]

@ 100 Grand, I'd better be earning a million...Or close to it...

 

[Lint Basket]

The Simplicity of the AT is what it's most about for me. Let's see, there is three belts off the PTO to power the blower and 2 belts for the pump, done. I'm not a mechanic but I can change belts every couple of years. I'm on my 4th Big truck now in 14 years. My last one was a 2006 and I just sold it for $45,000 (9 years old) do that with a Butler. I could have kept it longer but just too many sweet things about the new ones. I have the Isuzu NQR now. My plan is 10 years at the least.

 

[rick imby]

The numbers really are not that much different than with a Butler. 25% more on the buy, 25% more on the sell. I would guess the Aero with two or three techs all the time will produce more than 25% more than two techs on a Butler. But it depends a lot on your customer base and the business you go after.

 

[ronbeatty]

Just curious...If you do own a Aerotech how much money do you generate @ year? And are you an owner/operator or larger?

Michael,
My main reason for buying the first Aerotech style trucks in 2007 was the efficiencies they provided. Everything from clean and recovery water volume to access to machine parts for repair and maintenance figured into the purchase decision. The first year our income per production hour rose significantly. We have seen an increase in hourly income every year since the upgrade of equipment. Our income per operating hour is somewhere above $350 per hour, so I feel the investment in the equipment was justified.
I can be more specific later today as I am sitting in the infusion dept in the hospital for the 4th day out of 5 with my wife, hope they soon get an answer for what's going on

 

[todg]

Michael,
My main reason for buying the first Aerotech style trucks in 2007 was the efficiencies they provided. Everything from clean and recovery water volume to access to machine parts for repair and maintenance figured into the purchase decision. The first year our income per production hour rose significantly. We have seen an increase in hourly income every year since the upgrade of equipment. Our income per operating hour is somewhere above $350 per hour, so I feel the investment in the equipment was justified.
I can be more specific later today as I am sitting in the infusion dept in the hospital for the 4th day out of 5 with my wife, hope they soon get an answer for what's going on

Ron best of health! Good answers...As an owner/operator who picks and chooses...Aerotech may not be a great solution for me in the near future, nor will an SS 870...I like Mikey's choice, however, he's primarily a carpet cleaner...Not sure if it will be the right choice for hard surface cleaning...Heat is key in tile and grout cleaning, typically not chemicals...Get Well Soon!

 

[Todd Millar]

The Simplicity of the AT is what it's most about for me. Let's see, there is three belts off the PTO to power the blower and 2 belts for the pump, done. I'm not a mechanic but I can change belts every couple of years. I'm on my 4th Big truck now in 14 years. My last one was a 2006 and I just sold it for $45,000 (9 years old) do that with a Butler. I could have kept it longer but just too many sweet things about the new ones. I have the Isuzu NQR now. My plan is 10 years at the least.

Hi Scott,
Are you an O/O or do you send out techs on your rigs?
I am an O/O and I have been considering an AT. My average home is around 5500 sq ft and the biggest I clean is at 10k sq ft.
I am looking at these for the ease of use on long hose runs with high vac and high heat.
Thanks !!

 

[Lint Basket]

I'm an Owner Operator. I have been going more and more residential now that I'm in my 40's. I love it on residential dual wanding. Instead of cleaning the whole house by yourself while your helper holds your hose you send him to the basement or attic to clean while you focus on the nastier more lived in areas to clean. I also like training my help to do stairs too. It takes them 30 minutes to do a set of stairs my way but man they turn out sweet and I don't have to do them, lol. My average home I clean is 5,000 ft. I clean some Monster Houses, a couple of weeks ago I had a residential set-up that was 220' in a 17,000 square ft. home. That's where this truck shines as well . You're welcome to pm or call me anytime if you are serious. I live 12 minutes from Aerotech so if you decide to get one we can do lunch and demo your truck before you take it home. I've done that with a few guys in the past. It's a good time and Jeremy buys us Lunch.

 

[Todd Millar]

Scott that sounds great !!!!! I am about a year to a year and a half from making this decision but when I do I will give you a pm and get together.
Thanks!

 

[Mikey P]

Heat is key in tile and grout cleaning, typically not chemicals

I disagree.

Chems and agitation is what works for me, and yes, I have an Aerotech.


just ask @Cameron DeMille how he cleans..

 

[todg]

I disagree.

Chems and agitation is what works for me, and yes, I have an Aerotech.


just ask @Cameron DeMille how he cleans..

You have a 100 Grand Operation and don't utilize it's heat for tile and grout cleaning...Sorry Mike, heat is key...I never said chemicals and agitation weren't necessary, but are secondary...

 

[Mikey P]

Suit yourself.