Which one of you garage chemist wants a home run?

[Mikey P]

Melt down some Fels and mix with 40 vol and you'll have the best damn post spotter ever made.


Seriously.


Figure out what's in Fels and go for it.


If that combo dont get it it's time to patch or bleach

 

[Bob Foster]

Soap (sodium tallowate*, sodium cocoate* (or) sodium palmate kernelate*, and sodium palmate*), water, talc, cocnut acid*, palm acid*, tallow acid*, PEG-6 methyl ether, glycerin, sorbitol, sodium chloride, pentasodium pentetate and/or tetrasodium etidronate, titatium dioxide, fragrance, Acid Orange (CI 20170), Acid yellow 73 (ci43350)

 

[Royal Man]

Soap (sodium tallowate*, sodium cocoate* (or) sodium palmate kernelate*, and sodium palmate*), water, talc, cocnut acid*, palm acid*, tallow acid*, PEG-6 methyl ether, glycerin, sorbitol, sodium chloride, pentasodium pentetate and/or tetrasodium etidronate, titatium dioxide, fragrance, Acid Orange (CI 20170), Acid yellow 73 (ci43350)

So it is mainly lye soap.

 

[Dolly Llama]

So it is mainly lye soap.

i didn't see any sodium hydroxide in there



..l.T.A.

 

[ACE]

"post spotter"?

Fels worked okay for me. I just don't care to get down on hand and knees and scrub.

I found using a butyl degreaser W/ the Nike shuffle works about the same and rinses much better.

 

[KevinL]

YUUUP, a few squirts of Purple along a baseboard, spread with Nike, rinses soil filtration right out. Wipe baseboard if nice house.

 

[Mikey P]

btw, I dont melt it down myself, I just spritz the 40 and rub the magic bar on the spot and rinse

 

[curt johnson]

Fels is one of the greatest inventions for the carpet cleaner ever. And yes, the Nike shuffle is the only way for it to properly work.

 

[FredC]

http://www.thefamilyhomestead.com/laundrysoap.htm

 

[sam miller]

Fels is one of the greatest inventions for the carpet cleaner ever. And yes, the Nike shuffle is the only way for it to properly work.

Thats cause us carpet cleaner's need to put a little boot to carpet once in a while!

 

[woodsey]

Been using fels for awhile. Saves a ton of $$ over using solv gel in a tube and best of all it will not leak in pocket and burn your pecker.

 

[Royal Man]

I used to call the Nike shuffel the carpet cleaning disco back in the day.

 

[BraveHeart]

what is vol 40?

 

[Giorgio]

It looks like this and you can get it at Sally's Beauty Supply.

 

[dgardner]

It looks like this and you can get it at Sally's Beauty Supply.

If there's someone out there still not familiar with 40 Vol peroxide, we should probably mention - Use gloves! Under no circumstances get it on your skin!

 

[dgardner]

btw, I dont melt it down myself, I just spritz the 40 and rub the magic bar on the spot and rinse

I would think that would be the best method. If you tried to premix, the peroxide would lose strength rapidly, which is the main reason for all the two-part oxidizing spotters out there.

 

[johndoe123]

Can you use the oxidizers at local pool supply? Like http://www.amazon.com/Splashes-Chlorine ... 587&sr=8-1 as an example is 27% peroxide

 

[Shawn Forsythe]

[quote="Royal Man":2tevw265]

So it is mainly lye soap.

i didn't see any sodium hydroxide in there

..l.T.A.[/quote:2tevw265]

Sodium tallowate is lye (Sodium Hydroxide) and beef fat.
Sodium cocoate is lye and coconut oil.
Sodium palmate is lye and palm oil.

PEG-6 methyl ether – A synthetic polymer solvent. Synonyms: Methyl Cellosolve; Ethylene glycol
monomethyl ether.

Fels Naptha is basically a bar of soap with Methyl Cellosolve solvent added to boost performance. A few stabilizers, preservatives, fragrance and colorants round out the mix. No self-respecting manufacturer of carpet cleaning chemicals would use actual soap as a base for anything in their product line. Soap has inherent disadvantages when used in a process not guaranteeing soft water and/or full immersion/copious rinsing.


If I were designing a "Hack Spotting Kit", it would definitely be in the arsenal. Things in the Hack Spotting Kit would include,....

Fels Naptha
WD-40
Acetone
Sally's 40 Volume
Benzene or Ronsonol Lighter fluid
Hydrofluoric Acid

 

[K P]

[quote="Erskine Allin":1kgymic8][quote="Royal Man":1kgymic8]

So it is mainly lye soap.

i didn't see any sodium hydroxide in there

..l.T.A.[/quote:1kgymic8]

Sodium tallowate is lye (Sodium Hydroxide) and beef fat.
Sodium cocoate is lye and coconut oil.
Sodium palmate is lye and palm oil.

PEG-6 methyl ether – A synthetic polymer solvent. Synonyms: Methyl Cellosolve; Ethylene glycol
monomethyl ether.

Fels Naptha is basically a bar of soap with Methyl Cellosolve solvent added to boost performance. A few stabilizers, preservatives, fragrance and colorants round out the mix. No self-respecting manufacturer of carpet cleaning chemicals would use actual soap as a base for anything in their product line. Soap has inherent disadvantages when used in a process not guaranteeing soft water and/or full immersion/copious rinsing.


If I were designing a "Hack Spotting Kit", it would definitely be in the arsenal. Things in the Hack Spotting Kit would include,....

Fels Naptha
WD-40
Acetone
Sally's 40 Volume
Benzene or Ronsonol Lighter fluid
Hydrofluoric Acid[/quote:1kgymic8]

A couple of those work just fine used right "in the real world" used by people who actually do the work.

 

[Shawn Forsythe]

The last part was maybe a little too "tongue in cheek", much as is Mikeys reference to "Garage Chemist". I apologize if it attenuated my point of the first part of the post.

Moreover, I don't mean to imply that any of the "Hack" items don't work. In fact, they often do. But the strong threat of serious complications do exist, relative to more sensible and accepted professional methods and solutions.

 

[FB7777]

the least of which being the insolvency of cleaning supply distributors

 

[John Olson]

Or losing everything you worked for by using a product for something is wasn't labeled for. Sure you may get away for years and years and never have a problem. Slip up once and your done. Saving $1 dollar versus limiting your liability just doesn't make any sort of rational sense.

 

[Lee Stockwell]

The first four items on the "hack list" are in my black bag. I use three other very effective solvents in place of the fifth item and a "safer" acid in place of the last item.

I use them because they are VERY effective, price is just a bonus.

I have a couple of CTI kits and a Prochem kit as well. They look really nice.

 

[FB7777]

me too Lee


I won a Prochem spotting kit in Nashville... everything in it was mediocre at best


The bag is nice tho... I use it to holding spotting towels and brushes :mrgreen:

 

[Bob Foster]

If I were designing a "Hack Spotting Kit", it would definitely be in the arsenal. Things in the Hack Spotting Kit would include,....

Fels Naptha
WD-40
Acetone
Sally's 40 Volume
Benzene or Ronsonol Lighter fluid
Hydrofluoric Acid

Fels Naptha 8)
WD-40 8)
Acetone 8)
Sally's 40 Volume
Benzene or Ronsonol Lighter fluid 8)
Hydrofluoric Acid 8)

 

[Kevin. McCreary]

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Or losing everything you worked for by using a product for something is wasn't labeled for. Sure you may get away for years and years and never have a problem. Slip up once and your done. Saving $1 dollar versus limiting your liability just doesn't make any sort of rational sense.

In all of my life I have never seen a manufacture of carpet cleaning products accept any liability

if the product you purchased from them backfires on you. Carry your own liability insurance and be

done with it.

BTW- Boost 20% or 40 vol with a dash of ammonia for a pleasant kick.

 

[BraveHeart]

What is Nike shuffle :?: Never heard of it...

 

[Dolly Llama]

What is Nike shuffle :?: Never heard of it...

"foot/shoe" agitation
works better than a brush and no bending over

kind of a poor image when the custy is around though ..IMO...


but if she ain't watching......


.L.T.A.

 

[BraveHeart]

What is Nike shuffle :?: Never heard of it...

"foot/shoe" agitation
works better than a brush and no bending over

kind of a poor image when the custy is around though ..IMO...


but if she ain't watching......


.L.T.A.

Thats hilarious...Im trying to google nike shuffle expecting some odd chemical or something lol
Of course over looking the obvious~

 

[MicahR]

[quote="Shawn Forsythe":2op3bss3]


If I were designing a "Hack Spotting Kit", it would definitely be in the arsenal. Things in the Hack Spotting Kit would include,....

Fels Naptha
WD-40
Acetone
Sally's 40 Volume
Benzene or Ronsonol Lighter fluid
Hydrofluoric Acid

Fels Naptha 8)
WD-40 8)
Acetone 8)
Sally's 40 Volume
Benzene or Ronsonol Lighter fluid 8)
Hydrofluoric Acid 8)[/quote:2op3bss3]

I would hate to think what would happen if someone left behind a bottle of volume 40, forgot about it, and someone's kid got a hold of it.

Owner/Operators it would be bad enough but what about an employee. The stuff may work great but why take the chance?

I've used every spotter in Prochem's kit at some point or another and have always had good results. Any one who couldn't would make me wonder.

Especially since Joe Domin was behind the chemistry of most if not all of them.