They do have impressive McDonalds like marketing. Can’t argue with that.
Mark my word...
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hogjowl
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LOL
I wish I was that creative
And had that budget
I wish I was that creative
And had that budget
steve_64
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I mean I get a lot of calls that used them once. I look like a hero compared to them. Even get calls to fix the problems they create.
They have been good for my business.
Oh I know what you meant. We all know. I’m just being nice because SS is the soupe du jour right now.
The Great Oz
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The franchise can regulate operations to an extent, but each franchise is really only as good as the owner. Our experiments with ex-SS guys have failed because we can't break them of the "high speed" mindset. I understand SS is trying to move upmarket though, so maybe the two-man, gone in 60 seconds methodology is old news.
Dolly Llama
Number 5
yes and no
Yes in the sense that "lower standards" of cleaning are acceptable here now .
(wasn't always so and you weren't chit if you didn't endeavor to be God's gift to fiber bundle fastidiousness)
The well respected/well liked board stars made dirt smearing enRcap and soap dispensing wand scrubbers "value priced" well and good too
no in the sense of bait 'n switch schmucks and other nefarious, unethical biz practices and marketing lies
the former should be welcome (there's a place for all biz models ) from buck-o-foot bells 'n whistles boutique outfits to $49.95 two rm specials (and hope they buy the squirtguard protectant)
There's place for all the ethical ones
I'd suggest the Stanley's and Hogopian's of the world certainly fit the ethical biz model
the latter..schmucks and liars should always be called out
hell, even the primary spray 'n wipe/VLM only guys would be accepted .
They get dogged mostly for their pantload-o-chit marketing (and rightly so)
if not for that, there's a place for them too
Don't be a hater to anyone but the lying and unethical schmucks
we allz jus trying to making a livin' Son
Beit in the "good, better, best" market
now, go do the right thing
.L.TA.
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hogjowl
Idiot™
Good grief
yes and no
Yes in the sense that "lower standards" of cleaning are acceptable here now .
(wasn't always so and you weren't chit if you didn't endeavor to be God's gift to fiber bundle fastidiousness)
The well respected/well liked board stars made dirt smearing enRcap and soap dispensing wand scrubbers "value priced" well and good too
no in the sense of bait 'n switch schmucks and other nefarious, unethical biz practices and marketing lies
the former should be welcome (there's a place for all biz models ) from buck-o-foot bells 'n whistles boutique outfits to $49.95 two rm specials (and hope they buy the squirtguard protectant)
There's place for all the ethical ones
I'd suggest the Stanley's and Hogopian's of the world certainly fit the ethical biz model
the latter..schmucks and liars should always be called out
hell, even the primary spray 'n wipe/VLM only guys would be accepted .
They get dogged mostly for their pantload-o-chit marketing (and rightly so)
if not for that, there's a place for them too
Don't be a hater to anyone but the lying and unethical schmucks
we allz jus trying to making a livin' Son
Beit in the "good, better, best" market
now, go do the right thing
.L.TA.
She's hot
Dolly Llama
Number 5
LOL.....I always thought that too
Martha Stewart has always appealed to me most though.....
..L.T.A.
The Great Oz
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And you like Martha Stewart?
SamIam
Member
What I find about Lord Stanley is they have one tech on staff with 10 plus years experience who keeps the wheels on the bus!
Nick the new guy usually chases off all of 10 year plus guy’s hard work.
Still they have problems with polys and olefin and just run and gun!
Unless they slow down add a few more steps it won’t matter!
They need to get the same results every time out not be so hit or miss.
Nick the new guy usually chases off all of 10 year plus guy’s hard work.
Still they have problems with polys and olefin and just run and gun!
Unless they slow down add a few more steps it won’t matter!
They need to get the same results every time out not be so hit or miss.
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Dolly Llama
Number 5
hell, half or more out there do
why you do you think there are so many pixie dust gallons-o-gunk on the market
I personally have no problem delineating a biz relationship with a "monkey biz" one
I want to see where she hides her prison tattoo ......
..L.T.A.
Mikey P
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I'm telling ya...
SamIam
Member
hell, half or more out there do
why you do you think there are so many pixie dust gallons-o-gunk on the market
I personally have no problem delineating a biz relationship with a "monkey biz" one
I want to see where she hides her prison tattoo ......
..L.T.A.
Well as a guy who doesn’t!
My point was O/O for the win on extreme carpet challenges!
God @sOOper hero where have you been?
Haven’t you seen all the how too’s in @Mark Saiger videos?
Saiger sauce, crb, Black brushes!
And your Marty approved!
Ps joking love you dude!
hogjowl
Idiot™
Keep throwing love around and you’ll lose YOUR approval rating!
Dolly Llama
Number 5
O/Ops rule this biz
and it's generally true an owner on the truck does superior work day in/day out compared to employees or subs
(they simply have more invested/more interest)
but I determined long ago 63.28% of them don't know chit
those are the ones that browned jute back carpet back in the day
and their call back rate spiked when berber became the '90s trend de jour
neither materialized for me...and I truly didn't know chit when I started
conclusion;
most can't figure it out themselves why their technique stinks .
They can't tell the difference when a filter is half/three quarters clogged
Can't figure out why/how jets can distort some carpets (if they even notice it)
can't figure out why leaving puddles at the ends of their wand strokes causes a myriad of their troubles with berbers and CGD
most have to be spoon fed
and/or sold "stoopit resistant" tools and mAgic elixirs
and that's the OWNERS!!
Now put peeples on the truck ........the problems manifest
I know you're no dummy
and willing to bet my last Little Debbie you and 36.72% here know what I'm talking about
..L.T.A.
hogjowl
Idiot™
Keep in mind, he hangs Sheetrock and paints for a living ^
Dolly Llama
Number 5
^^look^^
one of the "63.28%" that can't figure out which end of screwdriver workz
see what I'm sayin'......
gOOber
..L.T.A.
one of the "63.28%" that can't figure out which end of screwdriver workz
see what I'm sayin'......
gOOber
..L.T.A.
hogjowl
Idiot™
That’s why I don’t give mechanical advice.
You should stay out of cleaning threads
You should stay out of cleaning threads
Hahaha, all the way to the bathroom.
Hope my legs don't go numb again.
Hope my legs don't go numb again.
Dolly Llama
Number 5
Desk Jockey
Member
Before you start throwing stones at me, think about how credible your argument really is. An owner op will out clean any hired tech. ???
1. Many of yourselves were once “hired tech’s”, were you so bad then, or did you care about your quality?
2. Many of you have tech’s you trust to clean daily. They are not owner op’s
3. A trained tech equipped with all the latest and greatest tools, chem’s and tm can’t compete with:
a) Newby owner Ops that haven’t a clue yet
b) Facebook fools that use are borderline skitzo’s but great carpet cleaners…really?
c) Broke dik fools that are using anything from a bar of soap to wd40 and under powered TM’s
d) Portable owner op’s. My tech with a Everest, Prochem chem’s, Zipper Spinner can’t compete with an owner op porty user? REALLY?
Assuming that because you are an owner op it automatically makes you a better cleaner isn’t a straight across the board truth.
Sorry to ruin yor weekend!
1. Many of yourselves were once “hired tech’s”, were you so bad then, or did you care about your quality?
2. Many of you have tech’s you trust to clean daily. They are not owner op’s
3. A trained tech equipped with all the latest and greatest tools, chem’s and tm can’t compete with:
a) Newby owner Ops that haven’t a clue yet
b) Facebook fools that use are borderline skitzo’s but great carpet cleaners…really?
c) Broke dik fools that are using anything from a bar of soap to wd40 and under powered TM’s
d) Portable owner op’s. My tech with a Everest, Prochem chem’s, Zipper Spinner can’t compete with an owner op porty user? REALLY?
Assuming that because you are an owner op it automatically makes you a better cleaner isn’t a straight across the board truth.
Sorry to ruin yor weekend!
Dolly Llama
Number 5
not "automatically"
but in general the owner will put more effort in , regardless of the biz
notwithstanding whether they know they're clueless of not
Only Joni could do that...like wanting me to go shopping with her at some boringazz stores......
..LTA.
SamIam
Member
Before you start throwing stones at me, think about how credible your argument really is. An owner op will out clean any hired tech. ???
1. Many of yourselves were once “hired tech’s”, were you so bad then, or did you care about your quality?
2. Many of you have tech’s you trust to clean daily. They are not owner op’s
3. A trained tech equipped with all the latest and greatest tools, chem’s and tm can’t compete with:
a) Newby owner Ops that haven’t a clue yet
b) Facebook fools that use are borderline skitzo’s but great carpet cleaners…really?
c) Broke dik fools that are using anything from a bar of soap to wd40 and under powered TM’s
d) Portable owner op’s. My tech with a Everest, Prochem chem’s, Zipper Spinner can’t compete with an owner op porty user? REALLY?
Assuming that because you are an owner op it automatically makes you a better cleaner isn’t a straight across the board truth.
Sorry to ruin yor weekend!
Rich wouldn’t know he doesn’t have customers calling say the young man was good but I prefer the owner!
Not a lot but it happens!
Because as an owner I’m willing to try things my guys might not think of!
Experience matters! And you can’t just instill it it takes time.
But ya I loved my techs!
I’ll take that bet
.... the Stanley one at least. I’m not putting money on the Browns.Attachments
Cleanworks
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Good for you. If only you can get your techs trained and enjoying the challenge. Biggest problem I had working for large corps., .is that they would overload me with jobs, not giving me the time to do a proper job. 5-6 jobs a day is not consistent with quality.View attachment 77901View attachment 77902 View attachment 77904 View attachment 77906
I’ll take that bet
That is the key for sure. Tools don’t mean squat without tech buy in. I’ll tell you right now that my crews are fighting over who gets a CRB each day. They’re definitely sold on the results of it. We just got the Devestators today so we’ll see.
