That makes me feel better. I'm not crazySo I bought this one: PMF- Swivel Head 30-inch Ergonomic Stair Tool
Its a toy! If that's what Saiger uses, I'll consider disowning him
Difficult to maneuver, feels light and non durable. It is cheap (nice) and it feels cheap. And it left lots of water in the carpet -very poor water recovery. You should have seen how much more water my small pmf stair tool recovered after the passes with this tool. And I have a Butler with the screaming large blower.
Monday it goes back to my supplier and I'll try a different design.
IMHO not a well designed tool. Back to the drawing board.
So which is the best available stair tool?
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ruff
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Far from it, Matt.
Cleanworks
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So, you only tried it once? That's some learning curve. I felt the same way the first time I used it, then my regular stair broke and I had to use it for a while. Once I got used to it, it became my favorite stair tool. As for leaving water behind, try multiple dry strokes. It's just stairs, not hard to go back over a couple of times. Once you get the hang of it, you will find that you can pull it over the bullnose and really flush it well. You will still have the cuff it to remove excess water. I find the swivel works well in tight or circular staircases. Maybe not the absolute best for airflow but good enough if used properly.So I bought this one: PMF- Swivel Head 30-inch Ergonomic Stair Tool
Its a toy! If that's what Saiger uses, I'll consider disowning him
Difficult to maneuver, feels light and non durable. It is cheap (nice) but it feels cheap. Unless there's a dedicated & protected place in the van for it, I very much doubt it will last and my van is relatively well organized.
And it left lots of water in the carpet -very poor water recovery. You should have seen how much more water my small pmf stair tool recovered after the dry passes with this tool. And I have a Butler with the screaming large blower.
Monday it goes back to my supplier (happy reunion, nice of them to offer a free trial- Clean Hub) and I'll try a different design.
IMHO not a well designed tool. Back to the drawing board PMF. I know you can do a lot better.
hogjowl
Idiot™
Don’t pay any attention to Ofer.
He doesn’t eat pork.
He doesn’t eat pork.
Sierra Clean Care
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My go-to since day one has been the PMF 40” straight. I’ve also got 2 Prochems (one of each length), and a AW29 mini.... for stairs, I HATE the ‘29, for boats and RVS, I LOVE IT. I use the shorty Prochem when I do church pews. Guess we all have our favourites. I’ve even got an old POS that I use when I get those contracts I don’t want.... like carpet in an attic, or carpeting in someone’s van etc.....
ruff
Member
Let me quote you from your favorite poster, Ron:
Why would I want to do multiple dry strokes if a good tool will do it very well with one? Not efficient.
All tools require a cuff pass to dry the stair's nose really well.
And I don't need to try a tool for a month to know that it does not extract well. Been around.
Though, I am humbled yet delighted that you enjoy multiple dry passes. I'd rather watch paint dry with Richard
For me- Not a well designed tool. And yes, you are correct, we can adjust to any tool. I'd rather adjust to a better one.
Can you show us a pic of your pmf 40"? There's a couple different versions out there
Cleanworks
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I guess it's different strokes for different folks. More or less.
Bob Pruitt
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It's OK with me if you and Matt don't like it...I didn't like it at all...hated it at first. It was suppose to come with a glide and PMF couldn't seem to get one made so after calling them daily they finally sent one from a 3rd party to stop me from calling...daily. The glide seemed to put the the tool at the right distance to be effective and it is as dry as any stair tool so dry strokes are optional. I use the vac hose on the bull nose. Lots of control and very efficient for me. I really like it and would buy another if anything went wrong with it ... I have had no issues with the build quality. So I guess we will just have to keep Mark.
Sierra Clean Care
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I do find it a little long on some sets of stairs.... if it was 9-12” shorter, TO ME, it would be perfect....
Sierra Clean Care
Member
I do find it a little long on some sets of stairs.... if it was 9-12” shorter, TO ME, it would be perfect....
Desk Jockey
Member
1.5 or 2 inch. Careful how you answer, you may be called names. Aww forget, I'll call you sumthin either way.
ruff
Member
Actually, I copied the wrong tool info from PMF's site.
This is the one I got. No swivel. The rest still stands.....or seats
30 inch Long Stair Tool
This is the one I got. No swivel. The rest still stands.....or seats
30 inch Long Stair Tool
Sierra Clean Care
Member
It’s a 1 1/2.... IDGAS If Anyone says shyte about it.... it’s the one I like.....1.5 or 2 inch. Careful how you answer, you may be called names. Aww forget, I'll call you sumthin either way.
Desk Jockey
Member
Sierra Clean Care
Member
Variety is the spice to life!Thank you, cart blanch.
Not into whips and chains....anymore!
Sierra Clean Care
Member
BTW, it’s carte blanche......Thank you, cart blanch.
Not into whips and chains....anymore!
Sierra Clean Care
Member
Sorry, for you it would be carta blanca....
Mark Saiger
Mr Happy!
So I bought this one: PMF- Swivel Head 30-inch Ergonomic Stair Tool
Its a toy! If that's what Saiger uses, I'll consider disowning him
Difficult to maneuver, feels light and non durable. It is cheap (nice) but it feels cheap. Unless there's a dedicated & protected place in the van for it, I very much doubt it will last and my van is relatively well organized.
And it left lots of water in the carpet -very poor water recovery. You should have seen how much more water my small pmf stair tool recovered after the dry passes with this tool. And I have a Butler with the screaming large blower.
Monday it goes back to my supplier (happy reunion, nice of them to offer a free trial- Clean Hub) and I'll try a different design.
IMHO not a well designed tool. Back to the drawing board PMF. I know you can do a lot better.
Dual jet manifold and a glide needed or not really comparable to what we are using.
Lose swivel on this tool helps speed up but you don't want a loose swivel on any other wand
SamIam
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For a guy who does 8
Sofas 6 rugs 12 rooms and steps by himself in minus 20 degree weather you need every advantage you can get!
I never work that hard !
Lol I know the job was way bigger the day your guy called in at 333 and said I just woke up!
ruff
Member
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ruff
Member
Still nothing in the mail box.
Cleanworks
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Here are some of my stair tools. The long handled straight ones I use on commercial stairs. They allow you to stand more upright when cleaning. The customer down single jet wand is quick and powerful. The little one is great for tight places and focuses all of your power into a smaller area. Great for very soiled stairs. The swivel is the one getting used for residential most of the time. It gets into the corners and up to the riser better than all of the other ones. The swivel lets you get closer to the edge without you having to do the twist. Particularly, if there is a railing in your way. If I had to pick just one, I would pick the little one for its power and versatility.
SamIam
Member
Reminds me of my wands!
My two westpac 12 inch head 2 inch pipe not pictured!
Any body need a wand hahahaha
Desk Jockey
Member
Geez you guys! I buy one wand and on stair tool for each truck.
That's quite and investment in tools.
I might need another mach15
I'll never understand the idiocy of this group
The jet/bracket is to close to the carpet. The extra whatever a glide adds helps.
The glide also helps me not f-up ms smiths white trim. Mostly because of the design of the tool.
Cleanworks
Moderator
you don't.
