Vortex replaced by a floor buffer

[GCCLee]

listened in..

not impressed with his reasoning, method or descriptions what so ever.

Can I post that piture again : )
It explains the method really well!

Puleeese


Sent from da parking garage of dee detention center

 

[Willy P]

Is any Trinity exactly like any other Trinity?

YES! You can order a custom bend to the handle!

 

[John G]

Of course you don't Mikey... that is predetermined.

 

[Mikey P]

yes, it's predetermined that a one method, one machine "cleaner" is a fool.



and a steps son car buffer is not a valid way to clean steps or upholstery...it's cop out bullshit excuse to not be responsible and professional.

 

[John G]

Again Mikey, YOUR opinion, but not based on facts nor science...
Try testing to prove yourself right instead of just "thinking" you are right...

You are one of the few to come away from that interview with that take on it.
Don't worry... many more to come...

 

[Shane Deubell]

yes, it's predetermined that a one method, one machine "cleaner" is a fool.



and a steps son car buffer is not a valid way to clean steps or upholstery...it's cop out bullshit excuse to not be responsible and professional.

It is ok tho if you put a broom handle on a car buffer to pre-scrub, just make sure to patent it...

 

[bob vawter]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRfDE9bndfg

 

[Mikey P]

Again Mikey, YOUR opinion, but not based on facts nor science...

Fact: I have truckmounts, CRB's, 175's, Cimexes..

I have factual experiences day in and day out that your one machine poster boy doesn't.


for christs sakes the guy has the homeowner pre vacuum the carpet, what does that tell you?

 

[Steamin McFadden]

This fact vs opinion thing is getting so ridicules.

It is a FACT that for normal everyday residential work my TM out cleans any VLM system or combination of VLM systems I have ever used, Not even a contest. another FACT , customers are MUCH more receptive to HWE then a rag spinner. No body can convince me contrary to what I see with my own eyes every day.

Q tip swab science testing done by a non scientist and a guy with serious bias should means nothing, in my non factual opinion.

 

[John G]

Actually Andy, it does mean something, and all the lousy noise you clowns make means NOTHING, because you don't have facts to back up the bs.
Sure you can all call names and throw sarcasm, however when it comes to facts, you always come up short...

Funny Andy, " No body can convince me contrary to what I see with my own eyes every day", ever consider you might have been a half assed VLM'r?

 

[KevinD]

I must have missed all the scientific facts you have.
Maybe you could post them again.

 

[bob vawter]

G....you forgot ta say ...PERIOD!

 

[Dmreed4311]

You should probably take this off of your website John.
"The agitation supplied by OP along with HWE is often the ONLY way to truly remove all the soils and spots."

 

[bob vawter]

Mikey PAYS him to come here and be the board DA....right?

 

[Dolly Llama]

Funny Andy, " No body can convince me contrary to what I see with my own eyes every day", ever consider you might have been a half assed VLM'r?

LOL!!

I knew that was coming sooner of later

you know what John just said, Andy?
it's easier to clean res well and get better results with a TM than a shake 'n shine machine






..L.T.A.

 

[Steamin McFadden]

Actually Andy, it does mean something, and all the lousy noise you clowns make means NOTHING, because you don't have facts to back up the bs.
Sure you can all call names and throw sarcasm, however when it comes to facts, you always come up short...



Funny Andy, " No body can convince me contrary to what I see with my own eyes every day", ever consider you might have been a half assed VLM'r?

[(The Andy reply ) I disagree , I think most fair minded cleaners would disagree as well. a test done by a non scientist with a serious bias Is not scientific factB]

As for your point that maybe I was a half assed VLMer and that's why I get better results with a TM??

I would consider that possibility, however even if that were the case. It would just prove the point all the more, So a good VLMer would get even better results then me with a TM.

And just know that the same stone can be thrown at your lackey boy , ever consider he was a half assed HWE tech? We could go in circles all day with fallacy based arguments.

But of course this is all NON Scientific opinion on my part so it means nothing. lol

 

[shadygrady]

G. Your like a one-and-a-half man wolf pack.

 

[John G]

Lol ...Ron, opinions mean little to me, we have offered up the facts, I only did a small part of the testing, both microscopic and ATP, here I ONLY get noisy opinions.

 

[Mikey P]

LOL!!

I knew that was coming sooner of later

you know what John just said, Andy?
it's easier to clean res well and get better results with a TM than a shake 'n shine machine






..L.T.A.

Mr Vortex Fail says his average home takes 35 minutes to grind in... How hard could it be?

 

[John G]

in the 90's everyone's opinion was OP was no good
Then a lot of people bought them and the HWE crowd either joined in a got one, or they poo pooed it.
In the 2000's most peoples opinions was it was no good or ONLY good for commercial
Now, those dumb opinions have proven wrong, of course, those using the system, felt different.
Now, mikey and cronies keep hammering, ,but they refuse to test for themselves... again a lot of opinions..
Opinions don't matter to people who test for themselves, instead of acting like HS kids following a leader...LOL

 

[Bjorn]

fiber bloom on residential plush carpets

 

[Art Kelley]

fiber bloom on residential plush carpets

Unless, of course,the pad is dampened and the fibers are lubricated. But yes, tip bloom for dumbasses.

 

[bob vawter]

JOHN G....after you drove all the way to Michigan...to MY house......to convince me of OP
WHY couldn't you clean my carpet.....?

easy question to answer..........if you got any balls!

 

[John G]

I CAN Bob...
Trinities can NOT tipbloom,,,,, old tale for old fashioned machines

 

[Art Kelley]

Too much dog piss. Even G has a conscience.

 

[Chris A]

Too much dog piss. Even G has a conscience.

Sure it was dog piss?

 

[Mardie]

For all you Steam Cleaners that cannot grasp the idea of science and cleaning I would like to point out that laboratory grade metering devises such as an ATP meter is great way to monitor your cleaning results. Laboratory grade metering devises such as an ATP meter are actually very simple to operate and obtain accurate and reliable readings. Many of you attack and fear the unfamiliar for no good reason other than your own shortcomings.
I commend John G. for seeking the truth in how well his new machines performs. The ATP testing is the perfect fit for our type of work.

 

[Steamin McFadden]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpdZwuyEmRk

 

[John G]

Was that you and your sister Andy?

 

[David VB]

I've been waiting for the old anyone who doesn't prefer OP just hasn't "mastered the method."