Mardie
Member
LOL you are a funny little man.
Wiggle Machines
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LOL you are a funny little man.
Nampa Carpet Cleaning
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Mardie
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I don't care to educate you on a subject that you are only trying to cause turmoil on.
Mikey P
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Nampa Carpet Cleaning
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Your math is Wrong and nothing you have said has been substantiated. thats all
ruff
Member
Why is it that John's choice of words remind me of Yorkie at his prime.
Mikey P
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Out of Character - 0
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Todd is correct with his speed, or at least close (I suck at math). Think about it, if you've ever heeled a 175 and let it move at full speed then you know it couldn't be faster than about 9 mph which is why you can keep up with it.
Nampa Carpet Cleaning
Member
One more thing that is very easy to figure out and compare by watching the Orbot video above.
The HOS Orbot drive block should revolve 1.33 times per second
175 drive block should revolve 2.91 times per second.
Trinity 10 million time per second
What is the final RPM of the SS HOSS does anyone know ? 700 cleaning passes per minute with 5 slots = 140 RPM ( 2.333 times per second)
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The HOS Orbot drive block should revolve 1.33 times per second
175 drive block should revolve 2.91 times per second.
Trinity 10 million time per second
What is the final RPM of the SS HOSS does anyone know ? 700 cleaning passes per minute with 5 slots = 140 RPM ( 2.333 times per second)
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Randy Royer
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A point of FACT BASED clarification: Todd was NOT fully reimbursed for the defective Trinity. Despite John Geurkink's claims to the contrary he did not "buy the machine back". Todd sued for damages and was awarded a portion of what he sued for. John Geurkink was not awarded anything including the return of the Trinity in question as a matter of law, the ruling of the court having been made and Johns appeal denied.
In addition to the expenses of shipping the unit back to John once already to only have John return it to him with a refusal to honor the warranty, Todd had legal fees. He was only made partially whole by the ruling of the court. Litigation is never pleasant and rarly profitable. Even if John had not bungled the case and appeared, he would have lost on the warranty issue alone and because he violated Federal law. The Uniform Commercial Code covers all sellers in the United States or those shipping into the United States. Whether John Geurkinks disregard of the UCC was out of ignorance or sheer arrogance is irrelevant, he would have lost the case regardless.
If Todd was vindictive he would have pursued the matter as I advise him and sued in Federal Court under the Uniform Commercial Code for three times the amount paid for the Trinity as allowed by law. Being that there was no affirmative defense for the violation of the UCC or attempting to change the warranty AFTER THE SALE WAS MADE, He would also have received a judgment for all legal fees. This would have given him a judgment of around $16,000. The UCC has a lot of punch behind it. That's the lesson in all this.
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Art Kelley
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Poor G. I'm just glad he's not in the Taliban.
Desk Jockey
Member
That was a cool move. Over and done with no need to continue this even if he would have won.
So how much for a used Trinity and do you ship?
Steamin McFadden
Member
Mardie, Just admit you were wrong about 3 times faster and regain your dignity. Yes it has a larger orbit but not 3 times faster.
As far as the 175 reference, I stated very clear , "IF we are talking revolutions per minute, than my 175 maybe 3 times faster then an OP" Then you come back with MPH, lol
(Sense when do we measure rotary's and OP's by MPH,?) lol
Now if you want to talk orbit size,,,
If I remember correctly my 17 inch OP had a 15 inch diameter pad driver, with the orbit it gave a 17 inch cleaning path. If you say the trinity has 3 times the orbit size then show me your 11 inch pad driver. You would need 6 inches of clearance VS 2 inchs on a standard OP.
As far as the 175 reference, I stated very clear , "IF we are talking revolutions per minute, than my 175 maybe 3 times faster then an OP" Then you come back with MPH, lol
(Sense when do we measure rotary's and OP's by MPH,?) lol
Now if you want to talk orbit size,,,
If I remember correctly my 17 inch OP had a 15 inch diameter pad driver, with the orbit it gave a 17 inch cleaning path. If you say the trinity has 3 times the orbit size then show me your 11 inch pad driver. You would need 6 inches of clearance VS 2 inchs on a standard OP.
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hogjowl
Idiot™
What are you going to do with them when they arrive?
Desk Jockey
Member
Mardie admitting he's wrong? NEVER!
Dignity? He's been a VS operator for years, he has none.
Lefty724
Member
Mardie admitting he's wrong? NEVER!
Dignity? He's been a VS operator for years, he has none.
LoL so true Chavez!
I've just given up arguing with Mardie and John G on here and other boards.
I have had about 4-5 jigglers and sold them all off and now back to a good ole 175. Don't care about orbit size or mph.
Desk Jockey
Member
LOL
Shane Deubell
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Its like religion with these op guys.
Impossible to have a rational discussion with them.
End of the day its a free country....
Impossible to have a rational discussion with them.
End of the day its a free country....
Lefty724
Member
Desk Jockey
Member
Easy there, I only pray to my Orbot occasionally. ig:
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ruff
Member
Not so fast Floorguy.
We still got our phenomena de jour here. Stay tuned.
Shane Deubell
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Its all about money to me,if op machines cost $20k and TM $3k they would flip flop in about 3 seconds.
I do it sometimes myself, try to build "evidence" to support my decisions.
I do it sometimes myself, try to build "evidence" to support my decisions.
Mikey P
Administrator
Not like a religion, it is a religion.
Full of "don't ask questions just accept it into your heart's", fairytales, silly unscientific facts written by cavemen who thought the world was flat, hocus pocus, whacked out evangelists and easily manipulated sheep.
Full of "don't ask questions just accept it into your heart's", fairytales, silly unscientific facts written by cavemen who thought the world was flat, hocus pocus, whacked out evangelists and easily manipulated sheep.
hogjowl
Idiot™
In my view, it would be refreshing and would generate many more sales if John would just be honest and stop with the magic elixir mindset. Simply admit to the systems limitations and focus our attention to it's benefits. If he and his minions would admit to the fact that the machines he makes aren't a great fit under many residential environments, but can be successfully employed in most commercial situations would be a great start in generating credibility in respected cleaning circles. And stop insisting you can clean up vomit, poop and urine with the darn things.
Good grief.
Good grief.
Lefty724
Member
Perfectly said Marty!
Mardie
Member
Mardie admitting he's wrong? NEVER!
Dignity? He's been a VS operator for years, he has none.
Richard I will PM you with what the answer regarding the speed of the machine and what makes it 3xfaster than any other OP machine on the market. I would rather let these dummies continue to stew in their own stupidity LOL.
ruff
Member
So, now the two of you are on private pm status?
Cool.
Mardie, no matter how heart wrenching Ricard's story is. Do not send him cash.
Frankincense? Yes.
Cash? No.
Cool.
Mardie, no matter how heart wrenching Ricard's story is. Do not send him cash.
Frankincense? Yes.
Cash? No.
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Mardie
Member
Ya know Mikey pays me extra for this. LOL
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