hogjowl
Idiot™
I hate you
MINUTEMAN ROS 17 OP MACHINE
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icleancarpetz
Member
Speaking of what sits in a garage worth 5¢
Meter Maid
The Undetective
Go clean the funkiest of carpet and study a blue microfiber pad, the soil gets drawn/ wicked into it's core rather than loaded up as you describe with Cotton's and the blended terry cloth types.
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WOW, you have been hanging out with OP fags way too much if you really believe that bullshit. I have microfiber pads and they don't pick up squat. You need deprograming fast. Maybe the scientologists can help you with their audit thingy.
I do agree that a CRB can make cornrow in a carpet extremely visible but that's very rare. There are very valid reasons why carpet mills hate bonnet cleaning ( or OP as in case of it's retarded brother the out of balance, over priced rotary.) I have had several op units and currently have a VIBE, been 99% VLM for nearly 20 years and frankly it's so over rated. In the case of OP machines more often than not they are fraudulently over-sold with lies. Why do cleaners love low moisture ? Easier on our aging bodies, much lower equipment cost and frankly much, much greater margins. If I had it to do over I would have stayed off the truck and just accepted the lower quality work you get from employees or focused 100% on commercial without the energy drain of running residential work myself. You can train a newbie on a cimex to clean commercial in 20 minutes and just have one experienced crew member keeping watch over 3-4 other amateurs and doing specialty spotting work etc. TRY that on residential and you will have huge Stanley steamer style problems.
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WOW, you have been hanging out with OP fags way too much if you really believe that bullshit. I have microfiber pads and they don't pick up squat. You need deprograming fast. Maybe the scientologists can help you with their audit thingy.
I do agree that a CRB can make cornrow in a carpet extremely visible but that's very rare. There are very valid reasons why carpet mills hate bonnet cleaning ( or OP as in case of it's retarded brother the out of balance, over priced rotary.) I have had several op units and currently have a VIBE, been 99% VLM for nearly 20 years and frankly it's so over rated. In the case of OP machines more often than not they are fraudulently over-sold with lies. Why do cleaners love low moisture ? Easier on our aging bodies, much lower equipment cost and frankly much, much greater margins. If I had it to do over I would have stayed off the truck and just accepted the lower quality work you get from employees or focused 100% on commercial without the energy drain of running residential work myself. You can train a newbie on a cimex to clean commercial in 20 minutes and just have one experienced crew member keeping watch over 3-4 other amateurs and doing specialty spotting work etc. TRY that on residential and you will have huge Stanley steamer style problems.
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icleancarpetz
Member
you got that right....years ago I tried the blue pod....tossed it like a frisbee...salesman bull-spit....don’t pick up a lick of nothing.
8k for a op machine¿.
Zee
Supportive Member
Randy, I would have bet money on that I remembered you being a major OP proponent for years...talking about low moisture cleaning in embassies and other important places etc. What's changed?
Do I remember wrong? I'm not spending much time here these days so excuse my ignorance if you had this written down already...
Mikey P
Administrator
Mikey P
Administrator
Meter Maid
The Undetective
Randy seems angry.
But, I do think VLM is highly overrated for residential. People don't want to, or can't afford to, buy a TM to actually flush residential carpet.
There's a guy on a FB group posting videos daily of him cleaning residential with a a multwash, talking about it being a standalone system.
I finally couldn't take it anymore, because people doing a shitty job cleaning carpet devalues the whole business.
I got blasted of course, by people either stupid, too broke to buy the right shit, or both.
An OP/Cimex will tear up some commercial carpet though.
But, I do think VLM is highly overrated for residential. People don't want to, or can't afford to, buy a TM to actually flush residential carpet.
There's a guy on a FB group posting videos daily of him cleaning residential with a a multwash, talking about it being a standalone system.
I finally couldn't take it anymore, because people doing a shitty job cleaning carpet devalues the whole business.
I got blasted of course, by people either stupid, too broke to buy the right shit, or both.
An OP/Cimex will tear up some commercial carpet though.
ALL OF THIS VLM TAWK IS SATAN WHISPERING IN YOUR EAR!
YOU KNOW IT DOESN'T CLEAN!
IT IS A COMPLETE FRAUD!
GIT THEE BEHIND ME OH SATAN !
(Marty on his computer in his pew from his mega church)
YOU KNOW IT DOESN'T CLEAN!
IT IS A COMPLETE FRAUD!
GIT THEE BEHIND ME OH SATAN !
(Marty on his computer in his pew from his mega church)
As long as the check clears.
Cleanworks
Moderator
I've often thought if I could do it all over again, I would focus solely on commercial. My business has become a bit of a trap. I have done anything and everything over the last 30 years and now that's what my customers expect. Think about all of the large commercial accounts you could do with a cimex or op machine. Large apartment building hallways, tall office buildings, hotel lobbies that need to dry quickly. These are big jobs that pay well. When they asks if you do homes, just say no. For the price of a truckmount, you can buy the best op, a cimex, a crb, a few good quality vacuums and all the goodies you need to start up. Maybe a small portable for upholstery and spotting. You might still have some money left over to start hiring someone to do the work so you can get out and sell more.
Kenny Hayes
Member
Actually, Jesus led me down that very road
Thank you Jesus. Only difference is, I do have 2 truckmounts for the times I need them. And dang it, I have cleaned my share of residential when I couldn’t say no.
Hog howl disowned me for using a Bissell in my own house
Thank you Jesus. Only difference is, I do have 2 truckmounts for the times I need them. And dang it, I have cleaned my share of residential when I couldn’t say no.Hog howl disowned me for using a Bissell in my own house
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Dolly Llama
Number 5
Hog howl disowned me for using a Bissell in my own house
other than build quality, there's not much difference if your "two TMs" are Banes.......
..L.T.A.
Kenny Hayes
Member
Well, that’s not the case mr. #smartrear
My Bane is a porty, not a truckmount. Besides, I only have 1 Bane.
My bissell is high quality
My Bane is a porty, not a truckmount. Besides, I only have 1 Bane.My bissell is high quality
hogjowl
Idiot™
Idiot
Kenny Hayes
Member
While we’re at it, explain how a pig farmer can call any one an idiot?
hogjowl
Idiot™
Idiot
Kenny Hayes
Member
Cleanworks
Moderator
He raises premium pigs.
Condog
Member
Their site says $3495
Mikey P
Administrator
What do I know
Meter Maid
The Undetective
15" Cimex and a 13" rotary with some Ironman cottons pads.
Better than any machine that makes your hands feel like a 14 year-old-boy with his dad's Playboy.
My crush on OP machines is gone.
Better than any machine that makes your hands feel like a 14 year-old-boy with his dad's Playboy.
My crush on OP machines is gone.
Mikey P
Administrator
We did and do that since 2001, although we use a real 17".
Good or great for two man teams but as mentioned here recently, if your VLM process is two or more steps for one operator, might as well HWE. ( If logistics and finances allow)
Good or great for two man teams but as mentioned here recently, if your VLM process is two or more steps for one operator, might as well HWE. ( If logistics and finances allow)
Meter Maid
The Undetective
The rotary is only for areas that need some absorption. Almost never used with a Cimex. I don’t like using a jiggler on the off-chance I might need an absorbent pad.
Mikey P
Administrator
Meter Maid
The Undetective
No but I owned a Spyder.
Mikey P
Administrator
Meter Maid
The Undetective
I never slowed it down and in all fairness, that probably would’ve compelled me to keep it.
