Meter Maid
The Undetective
I heard Judsons for some reason don’t have great vacuum.
53 blower
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kohler 18hp engine
The difference in suction is noticed when you put a 3-4cyl engine in there to power the blower
Meter Maid
The Undetective
Somebody I talked to believes the vacuum isn’t very strong:
1) because it uses a 150 gallon waste tank, so it takes a while for the vacuum to build.
2) I guess the blower connects to the tank via a small 90 degree elbow.
The 150gallon tank reasoning has nothing to do with the suction. Maybe an extra second to build lift, but I don't see any more.
And Most truckmounts have that 90degree elbow somewhere in the system. Look at the hydra master Titan and Direct drives. Both of those truckmounts have great suction and they use the same tank from the 318 to the salsa and the suction is noticeably different in the bigger models
Mikey P
Administrator
Its not what i would call an elbow, rather a tower that eliminates the need for a blower protection filter
Dolly Llama
Number 5
Why and how?
If "whatever" motor is powerful enough to spin a blower at max load without bogging, how does a bigger motor improve that?
you're overthinking it.
and does Judstone even make a HX'er TM?
Only ones I've seen are propane heat
...L.T.A.
Meter Maid
The Undetective
I’m not buying one, just have questions.
Cleanworks
Moderator
They have 2 models according to their website. The TNT with a 20hp Kohler and 45 blower and the C-4 with a 35hp Kohler and a larger blower. I'm sure they suck as good as anyone elses. Very simple machines using propane heat. Dealing with propane is an issue in some places. You need to have a belly tank installed to do it right but can run off a BBQ tank if you have to. The 4htxp little giant heater will give you all the heat you will ever need with pressures up to 2200 psi.
I’ve used truckmounts with 18hp-56hp and the biggest difference was how the 3-4cyl didn’t drop performance when under full load.
Cleanworks
Moderator
It all depends on how well matched the engine and blower are. Also where you set the vac relief. One that I sold recently was a 20hp Honda with a 45 blower. Running at aprox 3200 rpm. When you seal the vac hose, the engine rpm doesn't drop much, the vac relief valve opens at 14 inches hg. That machine was very good up to 200 feet of hose and could still perform adequately at 300 feet. Both my Cleanco and CDS unit drop more rpm than that one did.
The Great Oz
Member
That's the Apple Store answer to every problem, and they seem to be doing well.
Are you saying carpet cleaners are smarter than tech posers?
Desk Jockey
Member
Nothing wrong with getting new provided its warranted. If it only needs repairs then spend that money elsewhere.
Like for a new Apple phone!
Meter Maid
The Undetective
It’s kind of why I find the Cobb machine intriguing. Nobody really makes fun of the Judsons and they are stupid simple and fugly. The Cobb machine has a top-of-the-line 45 blower (45MR), 32 hp Kohler and a really good pump with Teflon seals. I get it’s ugly, but so is a Judson. So why don’t the Cobb machines get any props?
Desk Jockey
Member
It probably has more to do with marketing that performance. While it maybe a household name in Texas, it doesn't carry the same brand power outside the region.
Meter Maid
The Undetective
Makes sense.
hogjowl
Idiot™
There’ll be no living with him now
Mikey P
Administrator
Cobb wanted to give me a ridiculously good price on one for my Nevada operation but the thing so ******* big it takes up the entire side opening of most any van...
No thx
No thx
Lee Stockwell
FOJL
Nick's frame was wider than the 870.
hogjowl
Idiot™
You two bitch about everything
roro
Member
Bring back Duane O
Cleanworks
Moderator
Not a fan of the car mufflers.
Meter Maid
The Undetective
I bet it is loud.
The car mufflers on my Texas headache were ruined in under 600hrs
Steve Lawrence
Member
Not for me. I'm done.
But that red handle....
So adorable!!!
So adorable!!!
It’s possible to quit that?So it's a much more deep rooted problem. How old were you when you quit wetting the bed? Or have you quit?
Mikey P
Administrator
Or a practical Pinto...
LCCFL
Member
Propane sucks. I didn't like how the little giant gave issues every time I had to spark it up. Build to much gas and say bye bye to your eyebrows when having to use a lighter
Cleanworks
Moderator
I never had that issue. Probably because I always kept my heaters in adjustment. They would light right away. Propane can be a pain though. One more fuel to carry, unless you convert the motor to run on propane. Some locations give you a hard time installing a belly tank and not usually legal to run a tank inside. Both can be done though, just a hassle.Propane sucks. I didn't like how the little giant gave issues every time I had to spark it up. Build to much gas and say bye bye to your eyebrows when having to use a lighter
Mikey P
Administrator
I like $1000 days with no truck running...
