APEX can't keep up...

[EDS]

So I'm using a 13' ZIPPER a 7 flow but my machine can't keep the heat up to what I am accustom to. Will going down to a 5 flow make a noticeable difference?

Thank you in advance...

 

[John Olson]

Need more information. What heat are you accustomed too? What is it dropping too?

 

[Bob Pruitt]

Could be you are getting more heat at the carpet even though it reads less at the machine.

 

[EDS]

At around 180 used to working between 210-240. Usually run with wand either 2 jet westpak 1.5 or prochem 4 jet 2.

 

[Nate The Great]

Do you have a lie detector at the wand?

 

[Nate The Great]

The way you trigger is probably different than when you use the wand also...

 

[EDS]

Do you have a lie detector at the wand?

No. Tried finding one up here with no luck. And big difference with the trigger. Still learning how to use it.

 

[hogjowl]

Use it the way it is. 180 is fine with the higher flow. Try not to be such a Tim The Tool Man.

 

[Mikey P]

Add another ounce of prespray and ignore it.

Go sit in a 110° hot tub and ponder your first world problem.

 

[EDS]

Holy crap you guys are tempemental...I guess that's what happens when you become old and wealthy

I'm kinda tone deaf but I will take that as a diss.

It was a simple question not meant to stir the pot...

My apex is older so it may not perform like the new ones. If remember correctly were you not running a 5 flow with your 370?

Anyhow I have a bath to take in the hot tub and stew on my first world problems...

Cheers,

 

[Jim Pemberton]

Holy crap you guys are tempemental...I guess that's what happens when you become old and wealthy

I'm kinda tone deaf but I will take that as a diss.

It was a simple question not meant to stir the pot...

My apex is older so it may not perform like the new ones. If remember correctly were you not running a 5 flow with your 370?

Anyhow I have a bath to take in the hot tub and stew on my first world problems...

Cheers,

Not a diss...its just male menopause setting in on a few of us (I'm older than all of them, so I can say so ....)

I wish you knew the Mikey I first got to know over 10 years ago...he'd not accept 239 out of that Apex.

 

[hogjowl]

I was expecting that Mike at MF

 

[steve_64]

I was expecting that Mike at MF

He moved to mountains where there isn't enough oxygen.

And got a 370.

 

[Nate The Great]

I was expecting that Mike at MF

Yea, now he's tripping overy his game boxes...

 

[Able 1]

I am running at around 200 with a 9 flow Ti at 30 degrees outside..

Things to check:
-pull the two small lines off your waste tank and lay them on the floor of your van.. Your bypass might be leaking, or the temp valve in the water box might be stuck open.

-Pull your heat exchangers and clean them.

-Check your RPM'S both of mine were set low.

If you want better heat in the winter you could always run a higher temp valve in your water box.. If you run a 160 degree valve you will get the temps you want. You should change it back when warmer weather is back.

 

[EDS]

-Pull your heat exchangers and clean them.

Oh the last time I did that it litterly looked like I did pull them out...$700 repair bill at my local rad shop

 

[JS41035]

The problem is not as much your flow rate as it is the length of time you stay triggered.
The question that matters to me is ,are you happy with how it cleans? My 870 will drop to 200ish with 12 flow zipper wide open for a long time. I don't see any difference in results.

 

[EDS]

The problem is not as much your flow rate as it is the length of time you stay triggered.
The question that matters to me is ,are you happy with how it cleans? My 870 will drop to 200ish with 12 flow zipper wide open for a long time. I don't see any difference in results.

Oh very happy with the way it cleans and more importantly how dry the carpets are after. It may be a ID10T error with my use. Went to Cleanworks shop yesterday and he gave me some tips on use.

 

[ruff]

Oh the last time I did that it litterly looked like I did pull them out...$700 repair bill at my local rad shop

A brother! Finally someone with the same mechanical skills as Marty and I.

Don't listen to mechanical advise from anybody named Stockwell or Martin. These folks came out of the womb holding a wrench. They just can't relate to people with our "skill set"

 

[EDS]

Just changed the oil on the machine. That went off without a hitch. Better then the blower. Overtightened and cracked the sight glass...

 

[Lee Stockwell]

Oh boy.

 

[Nate The Great]

Oh boy.

Actually girl.....

 

[EDS]

I was changing my tampon...what did I miss?

 

[John Olson]

There is still way to little information. Descale the machine check RPM's clean your HX's that should be done every 500 hours http://www.prochem.com/Upload/KCPro...f-4a4c-b124-e156cb2fbf01_8-603-763-0_APEX.pdf

Also when was the last time you flushed the coolant system? How about bleed it? So do this Descale the machine clean your HX's use Prochem Ultrapac Renovate, check and replace the HX gaskets if needed, flush the coolant system and replace coolant and make sure to bleed ALL the air out of the system. Check/Clean and or replace your temperature bypass orifice. Check the Temp Bypass on the water box that's your heat system in a nut shell

 

[FB7777]

Did you compare the temps using a 5 flow wand vs the 7 flow zipper?


Or are you just noticing that the temp is dropping to 180 with the zipper?

Higher flow , coupled with higher water usage with the zipper Cleaning in both directions should drop the temperature, but like the guys mentioned, the water is getting to the carpet with less heat loss in the solution line


Either way , if you haven't I would check first to see if I am maintaining the 210-240 range with the 5 flow wand

 

[EDS]

Unfortunately John I was not keeping proper maintenance records. This has been fixed.

When my heat exchanger needed repair, as mentioned earlier, I had everything flushed. Just have to figure out when that was done and guess what were the hours.

Papa, I have my daughter coming out with me on Sunday to film. I will use that time to run a comparison under operating conditions.

 

[hogjowl]

Is ranch Yiddish for wrench?

 

[Nate The Great]

Schmuck

 

[steve_64]

Is ranch Yiddish for wrench?

I thought it was an attempt at hillbilly.

 

[hogjowl]

That would be wranch