Be honest, what percentage of stairwells really need the riser cleaned?

[Nomad74]

I started to like the above comment but I talked myself out of it by suspecting he doesn’t edge vacuum,

Marty. You should have seen the job i had today. A vacant office building with 3k sqft of CGD. The place was a total mess. Broken glass and paper clips everywhere. It took me an hour just to vacuum and edge the place.

 

[hogjowl]

How many vacuums did you break?

 

[Mikey P]

Yeah it looks like a tool I’d like.

I'll sell you a new one with a Glide if you don't bitch about it

 

[Mikey P]

what percentage of stairwells really need the riser cleaned?​

100 percent. Why?
1. Ive seen posts where they say "they dont look dirty". Well Ive cleaned plenty of carpet that at first didnt "look dirty" where in fact after cleaning made a big difference.
2. If you skip this step, it leads to skipping other steps too. After awhile your just like everyone else, so how do you differentiate from everyone else?

Just today I had a set of steps where the risers were bad. Took an upholstery bonnet to them and they looked like new. Thats the rare case tho.

But if you want to be a 2 percenter you better clean 100 percent and give 100 percent effort, 100 percent of the time.

2%r's use two jet wands...

 

[Mikey P]

I'll sell you a new one with a Glide if you don't bitch about it

Maybe Matt would know if my Extender Benders will work with it, IM guess it they will, so insted of spray down, and soaking the riser, it'll strike right behind my flat face'd Glide.

I would want to install and test before sending it on to you.

 

[hogjowl]

I'll sell you a new one with a Glide if you don't bitch about it

That would be no fun for either of us.

 

[Mikey P]

That would be no fun for either of us.

correct, you wont like it.

Matt has horrible judgment on tools.

 

[Mikey P]

correct, you wont like it.

Matt has horrible judgment on tools.

If you're right handed a tool like that is nearly impossible to get to the left side of a stair threshold let alone the riser.

29 in is about max for a fella your size

 

[hogjowl]

I don’t even know what tool we’re talking about

 

[Mikey P]

I don’t even know what tool we’re talking about

That 40" straight PMF

 

[Sierra Clean Care]

That PMF in a 30” version, with a FF glide, tweaked jets, would be my personal preference for a stair tool.

HOWEVER, the 40” is what I’ve been using for almost 12 years…

 

[BIG WOOD]

Maybe Matt would know if my Extender Benders will work with it, IM guess it they will, so insted of spray down, and soaking the riser, it'll strike right behind my flat face'd Glide.

I would want to install and test before sending it on to you.

your extender benders are probably the best thing you've come out with. I used your flat faced glide for the first time yesterday and was very pleased.



You really need to check yourself and take my feedback seriously. I used more stair wands on my career than you've probably heard of, because a man of my height 6'5" isn't very confortable cleaning stairs with stair tools, so I found the perfect shape to clean stairs with only 1 tool. I've read that people on here have used 2 tools (wast of time) to clean risers and landings. This is a job, not a hobby.

I’ve admitted where I was wrong on my feeedback of tools, (zipper was one example)

over all my rantings of my frustration with these overpriced tools out there, feel free to ask

 

[BIG WOOD]

That 40" straight PMF

Your back will punish you if you use that tool

The curve at the handle will fix that problem and risers will be no problem.

 

[hogjowl]

That 40" straight PMF

Oh
No thanks

 

[hogjowl]

Your back will punish you if you use that tool

The curve at the handle will fix that problem and risers will be no problem.

That’s only half true
Mikey’s right about you

 

[Nomad74]

I'm thinking about getting a little wiener dog long hair puppy. They are too cute to resist.

 

[hogjowl]

I have a regular hair wiener dog. She’s a great pet, but don’t get one if barking annoys you.

 

[Mikey P]

Chief was home alone for 8 hours today...

 

[BIG WOOD]

That’s only half true
Mikey’s right about you

Explain how I’m wrong. I used one for one day and it was the most awkward tool and my back felt sore at the end of the job.

 

[Mikey P]

I used one for one day

cough!

 

[hogjowl]

The curve at the handle doesn’t make cleaning risers “no problem.”

 

[BIG WOOD]

The curve at the handle doesn’t make cleaning risers “no problem.”

You're right, but it saves your back from being terribly sore at the end of the job.

The straight connection at the head of the wand makes it no problem. The curve at the handle just helps you not want to bend over, like that pmf straight wand pictured above. When it's totally straight, you are needing to adjust your stance to keep a solid connection parallel to the carpet, which causes you to bend over. Put a curve at the handle and your back won't be sore

But if you put a curve at the head, creating the "S" shape, your wand will have to be positioned too far forward while doing the risers, which will cause the vacuum hose to want to pinch, making the risers very awkward because you'll be trying to clean and maintain the hose.

Mike, is that a good enough explanation? I"m not the average rug sucking idiot. I could clean around you guys while you're still setting up.

Both of you are ignorant. Mike, I'm sorry, but your stair tool isn't perfect. I have the pmf "S" shaped one and I rarely use it for that reason.

Marty.......ahhh, I'm tired of explaining you

 

[Mikey P]

It's the best I've ever used.

 

[KevinD]

Percentage of risers that really need to be cleaned? I have no idea.
Percentage of risers I cleaned in 40+ years? 100% of them.

 

[carpetjim]

Everyone, all day long. Never skip a riser!!

 

[they live]

If you charge for it clean it.
They look better cleaned too.

 

[Living The Dream]

If you charge for it clean it.
They look better cleaned too.

I agree with your statement, however I don't think that a riser needs to be soaking wet to be considered clean.

 

[they live]

I agree with your statement, however I don't think that a riser needs to be soaking wet to be considered clean.

If it's soaking wet its not clean.

 

[SamIam]

I rarely rinse and extract the risers any more. Anytime I do try it just over-wets the bullnose and is really doing more of a disservice.

We prevac all areas of the steps (which 90% of people do not) and then pretreat the steps only. Drill brush if necessary. Then rinse and extract. If I do see that a riser has a spot on it, I'll mist it with my wand and then dry stroke it.

I think there's a good number of carpet cleaners out there over-wetting. The sad thing is, is that there's people like Roger Lloyd training people to do it, so they don't know any better.

Release the trigger sooner

 

[SamIam]

I started to like the above comment but I talked myself out of it by suspecting he doesn’t edge vacuum,

Does pulling a hose off the wand and getting obvious stuff up count?