Sky
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Any advice on best way to avoid blowing breakers?
Rotovac cfx ranger and 360i (the ultimate Portable discussion)
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Nate The Great
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What am I chump change?!? Did my post not mean anything?
Don't plug into the same room, find out which cord has the vac and pump on it when working with the Ranger, and never plug that cord into a GFCI... Doesn't get any simpler than that bud...
Nate The Great
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@Goomer Sorry Frankie, even the blind guy can see through the bullshit......
Grant is the fkn man when it comes to carpet art.. Holy shit that's some nice Symmetrical rv360i lines... I don't have that kind of time or temperament to line nice lines like that, I just rake out the lines.. I also work away from my equipment so I'm not fkn with the hoses or cord..
Sky
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Thanks Nate, sorry I missed .
Sky
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Missed that
Goomer
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@Goomer Sorry Frankie, even the blind guy can see through the bullshit......
Grant is the fkn man when it comes to carpet art.. Holy shit that's some nice Symmetrical rv360i lines... I don't have that kind of time or temperament to line nice lines like that, I just rake out the lines.. I also work away from my equipment so I'm not fkn with the hoses or cord..
Not everyone is a superhuman like Grant, and I am not debating the merits of a Rv with a brush head.
To the average newbie with zero experience, I think it will be more trouble than not, and not just the Rv, but the entire setup.
I love my Oreck......
Goomer
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Start with identifying how many amps each cord is pulling.
Although I use both the Oreck & the 360i, I believe that both would be a bit daunting to a newcomer.
UNLESS that person has had floor polisher experience, or someone beside him/her to instruct BEFORE starting either machine.
Let's face it, neither are as straight forward to use as a wand, but each can give great results in the hands of an experienced user.
Also, each one can be mastered in a matter of minutes.
The Oreck is simpler, being that you use something to pre-spray, then agitate, but it does not extract.
The RV system IS more complex & DOES take more time to set-up/break down, but can give superior results on trashed carpets.
You CAN clean (relatively clean) stairs & risers with the Oreck.
I find newbies are more prone to damage items with the Oreck than the 360i.
Just my thoughts on the two machines.
One must have their toys, I love 'em all.
UNLESS that person has had floor polisher experience, or someone beside him/her to instruct BEFORE starting either machine.
Let's face it, neither are as straight forward to use as a wand, but each can give great results in the hands of an experienced user.
Also, each one can be mastered in a matter of minutes.
The Oreck is simpler, being that you use something to pre-spray, then agitate, but it does not extract.
The RV system IS more complex & DOES take more time to set-up/break down, but can give superior results on trashed carpets.
You CAN clean (relatively clean) stairs & risers with the Oreck.
I find newbies are more prone to damage items with the Oreck than the 360i.
Just my thoughts on the two machines.
One must have their toys, I love 'em all.
Sky
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Nate do you work at rotovac ?
Sky
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Goomer, if the entire setup would take an exorbitant amount of time for a newbie, how much time would it take for someone who is experienced with it?
Goomer
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No real answer as each job is different....some layouts are favorable to setting up and some are not.
It is certainly possible for it to be done efficiently enough to warrant it, but it takes time, even for someone experienced.
My point here is that you have so many other cleaning fundamentals to learn, and so many other intangibles to work out as it is without trying to figure it out while trying to run an unfamiliar rotary extractor, while tethered to a sink, while your popping breakers and tripping over lines, doing things you have never done before.
I'm not saying he can't do it, but I think getting off on the wrong foot will just make it so much harder and frustrating.
Desk Jockey
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Stay clear of the cords or you'll be digging them out from the head...thats just what some clumsy idiot..told me. 
Old Coastie
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Sky. Wanding with a porty blows goats. I do it daily.
Keep your wonderful Rotovac and either clean your own home or go do a church for free. Remember that you can wand with the Ranger if you need to get into the corners.
You'll be up to snuff in no time. Also, if you do two homes a day averaging $300, that is about $150,000/year for frigging manual labor!
If you still hate your system, sell it to me at a huge loss. Otherwise, just go for it. Find your local chemical pimp, get a great all-round powder like Flex or Saiger Sauce, and read a thousand postings here.
It'll all sort out. You go carve yourself some meat and Sky, NEVER NEVER compromise on the quality of service. Good luck.
Keep your wonderful Rotovac and either clean your own home or go do a church for free. Remember that you can wand with the Ranger if you need to get into the corners.
You'll be up to snuff in no time. Also, if you do two homes a day averaging $300, that is about $150,000/year for frigging manual labor!
If you still hate your system, sell it to me at a huge loss. Otherwise, just go for it. Find your local chemical pimp, get a great all-round powder like Flex or Saiger Sauce, and read a thousand postings here.
It'll all sort out. You go carve yourself some meat and Sky, NEVER NEVER compromise on the quality of service. Good luck.
Nate The Great
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No but I grew up using power wands and Rotary Extractors.. I do love my Zippers also..
As for heat, are you using just tap water with no heater?
Sky
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Yes tap water with no heat. I've done two jobs with tap water and clients were happy. However, carpets were not very bad.
Old Coastie
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I should think a drop-in heater would help while you run up the hoses and cords. Then uplug it and get busy.
There are also circuit finders that you plug into the extension cord and they tell you if one outlet is on the same breaker as another.
The other thing I'd do is put a proper plug on the 360i (if it doesn't have one) and draw off a local outlet instead of the Ranger. Long hose runs would not have to involve long extension cords.
No doubt that is already allowed for somehow.
There are also circuit finders that you plug into the extension cord and they tell you if one outlet is on the same breaker as another.
The other thing I'd do is put a proper plug on the 360i (if it doesn't have one) and draw off a local outlet instead of the Ranger. Long hose runs would not have to involve long extension cords.
No doubt that is already allowed for somehow.
Goomer
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He needs a heater like he needs a hole in his head.
He needs to simplify thinks a little until he grasps the basics better, not make things more complicated.
Heater=Kiss Of Death.
Old Coastie
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Oh, right. I forgot he can't be trusted to figure out how to make hot water.
Goomer
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He already said he's popping breakers with what he has right now.
Does he really need to throw an electric heater into the equation at this point?
Sky
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I have not popped one breaker. Simply wanted to circumvent that by getting info from those with more experience so I don't have to go through that.
Sky
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Trying to be as pragmatic and prepared as pisdible. Thanks
Sky
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Possible
Goomer
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My mistake, but trust me, adding a heater to your existing setup would be a mistake at this point in the game.
Goomer
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And you should be, so figure out how many amps each cord on your equipment pulls.
That's the first step.
Mikey P
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I think he makes Latka help him.
Old Coastie
Supportive Member
Sky, get a circuit tester or check the box to make sure you are on different breakers. Simple. Whatever your reasons for not getting a truckmount, I think you can do just fine with the rotovac and my back says it wishes I had one too.
Can we trust you to make hot water and then pull the heater out before starting the machine? I'm asking for a friend.
Can we trust you to make hot water and then pull the heater out before starting the machine? I'm asking for a friend.
Goomer
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LOL.....His water temp should be the last thing on his mind at this point.
He has no experience and hasn't had his equipment for more than a few weeks.
Does he really need one more amp guzzling component to plug in and monitor?
Nate The Great
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Used my #2 LG today, man I love that little fooker.. I used 2 electrical heaters when I can't use my LG.. Heat does play a bigger part especially with portables, your already at a disadvantage....
Plug into different rooms/ walls... That's all she wrote folks...
Plug into different rooms/ walls... That's all she wrote folks...
Goomer
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It's not about the benefits of heat.
Again, my point is this guy is inexperienced and not yet intimately familiar, or at all efficient with the equipment he already has.
Not the best time to start ADDING components.
Except for a sweet lil' Oreck.
Again, my point is this guy is inexperienced and not yet intimately familiar, or at all efficient with the equipment he already has.
Not the best time to start ADDING components.
Except for a sweet lil' Oreck.
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@Sky .
You will need - some - heat from somewhere. Suppose you get a job with a pee spot. What are you going to mix the treatment with if the property has no hot water, or hot water too cold to activate your treatment?
You need - some - heat source even if you don't use it most of the time because the sink has all you need.
Maybe it's a bucket heater, maybe it's a kettle, maybe it's an inline heater?
Whatever you do though, in the end some things just require one.
You will need - some - heat from somewhere. Suppose you get a job with a pee spot. What are you going to mix the treatment with if the property has no hot water, or hot water too cold to activate your treatment?
You need - some - heat source even if you don't use it most of the time because the sink has all you need.
Maybe it's a bucket heater, maybe it's a kettle, maybe it's an inline heater?
Whatever you do though, in the end some things just require one.
