that famous Phoenix Spyder..

[Cleanworks]

90% of the time, use a dry pad. I’m talking about areas that really need some help.

What cleans better, a wet washcloth or dry?

After we clean up the mess, we follow up with a dry pad, usually MF.

It depends on what you are cleaning. A dry towel will pick up a wet mess faster than a wet towel. Next time you go swimming, trying drying off with a wet towel. We are wetting the carpet before applying a pad to it.

 

[Nomad74]

'71?

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REAL Irwin Visgrips ....not the cheap knockoffs.....


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Thanks. The correct is 9/16.

 

[Lee Stockwell]

A demonstration is better than an explanation.

 

[Meter Maid]

I missed my blu microfibers right from the spray Jets and only use one side...


If anybody gives a s***

Why only one side? What kind do you use? Star?

 

[Meter Maid]

It depends on what you are cleaning. A dry towel will pick up a wet mess faster than a wet towel. Next time you go swimming, trying drying off with a wet towel. We are wetting the carpet before applying a pad to it.

Correct, but just try a cotton pad soaked in steamy, hot water sometime. Cuts through ridiculous amounts of grease that you would normally use your TM for. Then, you follow-up with dry pads.
I’ve used a bucket heater before when I didn’t have really hot water.
Not an everyday thing, but when you have nasty areas, and you don’t want to pull hoses for it, it works really well.

 

[Cleanworks]

Correct, but just try a cotton pad soaked in steamy, hot water sometime. Cuts through ridiculous amounts of grease that you would normally use your TM for. Then, you follow-up with dry pads.
I’ve used a bucket heater before when I didn’t have really hot water.
Not an everyday thing, but when you have nasty areas, and you don’t want to pull hoses for it, it works really well.

I agree, heat is always better than no heat. Be nice to have an onboard heater for orbitals or cimex but then you would need extra power cords.

 

[Meter Maid]

I agree, heat is always better than no heat. Be nice to have an onboard heater for orbitals or cimex but then you would need extra power cords.

The Orbot Sprayborg was originally designed with an onboard heater. That’s why the machine has that curved piece under the solution tank holder. The heater went in there, but they would’ve only been a able to use a 1/2 HP motor. F that.

 

[Condog]

This perplexes me and keeps me up at night. First, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you are out of your mind. I hear from all sorts of guys that the best way to encap is to soak your pad first. So here is my mental issue; If the pad is soaked in water, doesn't the water take up the place where soil will be soaked up into? Why isn't it better to start with a dry pad, spray the floor heavily with encap, and let the soils wick up into the pad and have the heat created by the pad activate the polymers that make the encap so effective? I know starting out with a wet pad is better for the life of the pad, causing less friction and wear. Unless the encap juice magicially bonds with the soil through emulsification and then through anti-gravity principles have it defy physics and lift up into the water filled pad, replacing the water with soil.

I just don't understand it. Why not start out with a dry pad, do 400 sqft, look at the bottom, then say, "Yup it's dirty, time to get a clean one.".

The theory I can understand is: The water in the pre-soaked pad helps smear the soils around evenly. If you are lucky and by chance, some soils will smear onto the pad. The end result will be a clean looking carpet.

How do I do it? Well confession time. I never "Soak" my pads. I just get them damp to break the friction and reduce wear. I believe that by soaking them fills the pad with water molecules leaving less room for soil convection.

A guy on a video said it like this (I'm paraphrasing) "You take a good fitting t-shirt. You jump in a pool and now the shirt sags. You've loosened the fibers and they've expanded.
Applying this to a carpet pad - the expanded space between the fibers can now grab more soil from the carpet." I'm just sharing what I heard.
I have had the experience of wearing a t-shirt while floating down the river here in Phoenix area. The t-shirt does expand once it has become wet.
I think it is the weight of the water. As the cotton becomes wet the fibers expand; but the weight of the water on the cotton makes the fibers more easy to open and expand with the agitation so more soils can be picked up.

 

[Mikey P]

Why only one side? What kind do you use? Star?

TRS circle/star.

Once the foam is loaded with mud, what would be the point of flipping it?

 

[Condog]

It depends on what you are cleaning. A dry towel will pick up a wet mess faster than a wet towel. Next time you go swimming, trying drying off with a wet towel. We are wetting the carpet before applying a pad to it.

I don't mean to say the guy was doing the job correctly.

I would rather clean with a wet rag and dry with a dry one.

 

[Meter Maid]

TRS circle/star.

Once the foam is loaded with mud, what would be the point of flipping it?

The MF surface holds lots of stuff. That other side will hold more than you think.

 

[Mikey P]

The MF surface holds lots of stuff. That other side will hold more than you think.

But the foam should already be loaded so why bother ?

 

[Meter Maid]

But the foam should already be loaded so why bother ?

I’ve never known the foam to have a sponge effect at all. I feel like the MF is absorbing everything. I’ve always known the foam to be there for lateral stability only. Not positive though.

 

[Mikey P]

Easy enough to test