This is the end....

[BIG WOOD]

Google it
It may be time for an attorney.

I said the word attorney wayyy back

Nobody listens to me. Not even Damon.
Dumbass

 

[Desk Jockey]

I've got two Studebaker and one Stealth air movers coming. I'm thinking about spray painting "Chavez" all over them so I can pretend I'm a success.

lol

 

[Nomad74]

I said the word attorney wayyy back

Nobody listens to me. Not even Damon.
Dumbass

Some people don't have the money to throw around for an attorney everytime they stub their toe.

 

[BIG WOOD]

Some people don't have the money to throw around for an attorney everytime they stub their toe.

Go buy a watch and a trailer trash elcamino.

 

[BIG WOOD]

I’m not sue happy, but I know I need a lawyer in my back pocket when insurance doesn’t apply

 

[Nomad74]

Go buy a watch and a trailer trash elcamino.

I'm only doing it for @ShortyDownUnder

 

[BIG WOOD]

Lol

 

[Nomad74]

I’m not sue happy, but I know I need a lawyer in my back pocket when insurance doesn’t apply

I do agree it may be time to start recording phone calls or have an attorney on the line. There is also a diligence time period and I think Mark and the dealers are way outside of it at this point. Mark may be safe in taking this van to an independent mechanic and have him look at it then sue for reimbursement from GM or Butler. Especially since they have been caught in a lie. They have shown an overt act of deception. Mark now has grounds to escalate.

 

[Dolly Llama]

Some people don't have the money to throw around for an attorney everytime they stub their toe.

Mark's situation qualifies as more than a "stubbed toe"

he's bleeding cash over it.
His alternatives are to continue bleeding cash til resolved to his satisfaction
Or run it til possible (probable?) failure and hope it happens within manufactures warranty period
Most BDs not in Mark's po$ition would be forced to do just that, run it

..L.T.A.

 

[Nomad74]

Mark's situation qualifies as more than a "stubbed toe"

he's bleeding cash over it.
His alternatives are to continue bleeding cash til resolved to his satisfaction
Or run it til possible (probable?) failure and hope it happens within manufactures warranty period
Most BDs not in Mark's po$ition would be forced to do just that, run it

..L.T.A.

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[FB7777]

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My local dealership sucks!

Been sitting there and on 6th payment.

Butler has calls into GM big wigs.

I got so pissed yesterday couldn't sleep.

Local dealer is about to get hammered on social media by me.

Been pretty patient but money and patience done!

GM had some big meetings past few days so nothing returned for calls but I have busted the local dealership in 2 lies and this last time I through them under the bus.

Monday heads are about to roll.

I am freaking pissed off now!

There could be a blood bath

My dealership has all kinds of excuses not to work on it to figure it out and saying region rep coming in on the 22nd of this month... So it's sitting there yet..

Union shop and no one wants to work on it.

Monday... It could be epic pissed off Saiger day!

Damn bro, I'd be fit to burn the place down

Figured this was behind you by now, doesn't make any sense to me

Little scary that you can go new only to have a POS that sits idle at a grand a month while your dealership blows you off

 

[Desk Jockey]

Damn bro, I'd be fit to burn the place down

or at least one problem van.

 

[ronbeatty]

Time for GM to check frame alignment and install new motor and tranny. My next move would be to talk to GM and get their preferred dealer referral. Time to take it to another GM dealer.

 

[hogjowl]

He’s not here for our advice
He already has a wife

 

[Mikey P]

 

[Nomad74]

View attachment 77588

Beats a Vacuum tat.

 

[Mikey P]

The long wheel base, tall PM is 4 inches shorter, 1 inch taller and a foot narrower than the AT..

 

[Lee Stockwell]

Much taller inside.

Will it fit the available garage?

 

[Mark Saiger]

How far is the next city with a GM dealer? May be worth driving a ways if they are more competent than yours, and from what you've said they almost would have to be.

1.5 to 2 hours away... Or possibly 4 hours away...

But I'm not driving it the way it sounds at times

They would have to transport it and haven't received permission from GM to do anything different.

But Monday will be a new day!

 

[ButlerFrank]

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1.5 to 2 hours away... Or possibly 4 hours away...

But I'm not driving it the way it sounds at times

They would have to transport it and haven't received permission from GM to do anything different.

But Monday will be a new day!

Don't blame you, I'd be scared to drive it around the block the way it sounds. If Gm's dealer isn't doing anything to resolve the issue, then they need to pay for a flatbed to get it somewhere that will address.
It's beyond ridiculous at this point.

 

[steve_64]

I do agree it may be time to start recording phone calls or have an attorney on the line. There is also a diligence time period and I think Mark and the dealers are way outside of it at this point. Mark may be safe in taking this van to an independent mechanic and have him look at it then sue for reimbursement from GM or Butler. Especially since they have been caught in a lie. They have shown an overt act of deception. Mark now has grounds to escalate.

Mark's situation qualifies as more than a "stubbed toe"

he's bleeding cash over it.
His alternatives are to continue bleeding cash til resolved to his satisfaction
Or run it til possible (probable?) failure and hope it happens within manufactures warranty period
Most BDs not in Mark's po$ition would be forced to do just that, run it

..L.T.A.

Mark has the right to take it where ever he wants to now. And he can sue and probably win for the cost if he's paid for repairs that didn't fix it. Been through it myself with a personal vehicle.

 

[hogjowl]

I’m certain Mark is grateful for the outstanding advice he’s received here.
From all the idiots ...

 

[Mikey P]

Removing the potato from our exhaust has turned the V into a Porsche

 

[DAT]

Dawn dish soap bath will fix that up...

 

[Lee Stockwell]

Somebody should have put 20k cash in your hand Friday morning.

 

[steve_64]

Mine was an egr valve. The catylitic converter was glowing red on the highway when it died.

First mechanic replaced o2 sensors timing chain and then something else before I took it somewhere else.

Glad it wasn't more serious Mike.

 

[dealtimeman]

I’m only one call away

 

[Desk Jockey]

I’m only one call away

You can put that on the side of your new vehicle.

 

[dealtimeman]

Bazinga!

I think I am going with a 250 or 350 with high roof no windows. Haven’t decided if eco or no eco yet.

 

[BIG WOOD]

View attachment 77595 Removing the potato from our exhaust has turned the V into a Porsche

Did you just replace it with a straight exhaust pipe, or did you submit yourself to California laws and put a new catalytic converter on?

By the way...It looks like it's time to find a better welder.