100% VLM ???

[they live]

Lets see some pics of your work

And equipment

Im not the one trying to prove anything.

 

[frank fratto]

Fort bragg California we'll divide it down the middle vlm chooses what side i do. Loser has to publicly say he lost on this fourm and two others. No excuses win lose or draw 100 oz of silver if you win

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Dwain, that is a GREAT SHOP !!! Working men shop! Love it !!

 

[Kenny Hayes]

Do you a 28 '' Vacuum ???

I do, more than one. Battery, not electric. You can have more vacuums than me.

 

[frank fratto]

I do, more than one. Battery, not electric. You can have more vacuums than me.

YOU GUYS SUCK!!! LOL

 

[Kenny Hayes]

We do

 

[Rick J]

Living the Dream with TOTAL Honesty

Thank You !!!



Have you ever tried the WORX Sprayer ???

If I was still HWE I would be using the WORX

They are reasonable priced and last a long time

You need 2-3 batteries just in case but one battery usually lasts all day, and you need to charge at the end of the day, but still worth it

Adding a Multi Sprayer Wand to WORX and teejet makes it the BEST Sprayer for VLM or HWE. My opinion

I have different wands with different Teejets for every situation I run into

I mostly use 8002 or 8003 but have 8004 8006 for big rooms so I can move faster or for trashed carpet when I need to put more solution down



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love my worx, first I got one of the crappy IBS for when doing VLM, crapped out, quickly, and no support ; got several Worx cheap, online auction, now use for pre-spray HWE as well

 

[Dwain Ray]

Dwain, that is a GREAT SHOP !!! Working men shop! Love it !!

Too bad ya can't do the challenge, its pretty straightforward. This is how the carpet looks today. I would divide it into 3 spaces. The challenge is the top 2. The bottom right had 5qts of transmission oil spill on it. It can be made to look presentable but will never come completely clean. During the challenge i will clean it but the challenge is the upper part by the bench. The carpet is not tacked down and there's a blue tarp underneath as a barrier. So the carpet cal be rolled back to record exactly how much dirt and moisture i really push thru when i "soak the crap outa it and push all that dirt down into the pad". Im going to have to clean it over the Christmas holiday cus im tired of looking at it. You need to update your profile it says your in Utah. That would've only been an 800 or so mile trip.

 

[frank fratto]

Too bad ya can't do the challenge, its pretty straightforward. This is how the carpet looks today. I would divide it into 3 spaces. The challenge is the top 2. The bottom right had 5qts of transmission oil spill on it. It can be made to look presentable but will never come completely clean. During the challenge i will clean it but the challenge is the upper part by the bench. The carpet is not tacked down and there's a blue tarp underneath as a barrier. So the carpet cal be rolled back to record exactly how much dirt and moisture i really push thru when i "soak the crap outa it and push all that dirt down into the pad". Im going to have to clean it over the Christmas holiday cus im tired of looking at it. You need to update your profile it says your in Utah. That would've only been an 800 or so mile trip.

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This is the first message board I've been on. I need to update.

I have done challenges before.

My Rules.

The carpet needs a pad under it . carpet needs to be at least 3 years old.

You need to clean it like you would any other job . So how many steam passes would you normally make before you move on .

And the most IMPORTANT thing is we judge it the next day- after it's been clean, and if possible the next month?


And you can use any chemical you want. your normal stuff.



The next day is when, VLM SHINES!!!!

 

[Dwain Ray]

This is the first message board I've been on. I need to update.

I have done challenges before.

My Rules.

The carpet needs a pad under it . carpet needs to be at least 3 years old.

You need to clean it like you would any other job . So how many steam passes would you normally make before you move on .

And the most IMPORTANT thing is we judge it the next day- after it's been clean, and if possible the next month?


And you can use any chemical you want. your normal stuff.



The next day is when, VLM SHINES!!!!

This is the carpet, the last time i cleaned it 1.5 years of use and after replacing 2 complete frontends and a 4 wheel brake job. I first presprayed with firestorm and hydrogen peroxide. It was then cleaned and dried using emulsifier and an rx20. Then followed up with all fiber rinse and rinsing and drying with a 16"4 jet weighted drag wand as i do (with the exception of different presprays) on every carpet i clean. I got 100 oz of silver valued at this moment at 5,739.00 saying you can't out clean me, a 71 year old man with a homemade machine on this carpet using vlm period. The first pictures are to show you that im not using any process that i don't do on every job regardless of how clean or soiled the are when i start. All carpets are first presprayed then cleaned and dried with rx20 and then rinsed and dried with a drag wand. As a vlm'er you could say i double soak the crap outa them. And proudly so since 1977!

 

[Dwain Ray]

This is the first message board I've been on. I need to update.

I have done challenges before.

My Rules.

The carpet needs a pad under it . carpet needs to be at least 3 years old.

You need to clean it like you would any other job . So how many steam passes would you normally make before you move on .

And the most IMPORTANT thing is we judge it the next day- after it's been clean, and if possible the next month?


And you can use any chemical you want. your normal stuff.



The next day is when, VLM SHINES!!!!

There are no your rules. You wanta make rules put up 100 oz silver too. The golden rule is, " He who has the gold shall make the rules " its simple get your side cleaner than mine you win.

 

[jessi]

I think ( I know) my PEX 500 would do it, don't you

Give me 175, a portable and I’ll clean anything

 

[frank fratto]

There are no your rules. You wanta make rules put up 100 oz silver too. The golden rule is, " He who has the gold shall make the rules " its simple get your side cleaner than mine you win.

Dwain, NICE JOB !!!!! You clean it up unbelievably VERY WELL!!!!

FYI, I was the first one to buy the RX-20 in Utah, way back when. At one time i had 5 of them.

Age is Just a #

 

[frank fratto]

There are no your rules. You wanta make rules put up 100 oz silver too. The golden rule is, " He who has the gold shall make the rules " its simple get your side cleaner than mine you win.

At this point i only play by my RULES. Or i don't play!!!! Gold or no Gold !

 

[Dwain Ray]

At this point i only play by my RULES. Or i don't play!!!! Gold or no Gold !

Its probably for the best , i offered 100 oz of silver because im that confident that no vlm process can or will out clean frankinstien on this particular carpet. You can probably make a carpet look as good if we both started out with a relatively clean carpet but when it comes to a really really dirty carpet you cant just buff n go it will show . Just so you know im not just blowin smoke up your ass. Heres the prize.(thats on the off chance you would've won) but ill put it back in the vault. I thought for sure i had a taker

 

[frank fratto]

Its probably for the best , i offered 100 oz of silver because im that confident that no vlm process can or will out clean frankinstien on this particular carpet. You can probably make a carpet look as good if we both started out with a relatively clean carpet but when it comes to a really really dirty carpet you cant just buff n go it will show . Just so you know im not just blowin smoke up your ass. Heres the prize.(thats on the off chance you would've won) but ill put it back in the vault. I thought for sure i had a taker

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[frank fratto]

Dwain ,I believe you about the silver, people don't joke about that kind of stuff.


I love a good challenge normal circumstances, you know the kind of stuff we clean every day?

You know your average poly - nylon blend, apartment or a rental home that's been abused . Steam VS VLM .

 

[Dwain Ray]

Dwain ,I believe you about the silver, people don't joke about that kind of stuff.


I love a good challenge normal circumstances, you know the kind of stuff we clean every day?

You know your average poly - nylon blend, apartment or a rental home that's been abused . Steam VS VLM .

My shop carpet at one time was installed in a moderate to high end motel. They were replacing all there rooms carpet i offered to haul away 5 rooms worth if they left them whole and cut them square i had um then cut to fit and seamed together so when i drove on them they wouldn't split apart and would lay relatively flat. This carpet is the second one in 37 years thats been in this shop. And was destined for the dumpster when i got it a couple of decades ago. Ive held off cleaning this time it because im activity looking for a replacement. I may even go new this time, that way ill only have 2 seams. 1 long 12'× 32' piece across the back with a 12' × 14' down each of the 2 bays so id need only 60' off a 12' wide roll each bay will still be carpeted 14×24. I do all my own maintenance and repair on equipment and vehicles. I dont own a creeper cus its like changing oil in my livingroom. There's times i turn up the heat, kick off my shoes and wench. Only problem doing repair on wall to wall carpet is if you drop a tiny part you can't hear which way it rolled. Ive convinced several dyr's if there doing maintenance in there garage or driveway to go dumpster diving at a local carpet store and get a piece of carpet to work on and when it gets too dirty toss it and pickup another

 

[Living The Dream]

Living the Dream with TOTAL Honesty

Thank You !!!



Have you ever tried the WORX Sprayer ???

If I was still HWE I would be using the WORX

They are reasonable priced and last a long time

You need 2-3 batteries just in case but one battery usually lasts all day, and you need to charge at the end of the day, but still worth it

Adding a Multi Sprayer Wand to WORX and teejet makes it the BEST Sprayer for VLM or HWE. My opinion

I have different wands with different Teejets for every situation I run into

I mostly use 8002 or 8003 but have 8004 8006 for big rooms so I can move faster or for trashed carpet when I need to put more solution down



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I bought a Worx Sprayer several years back and I could never get it to prime. I still have it at my shop. Maybe I'll try and take it a part and see if I can find the issue.

I typically use my Multi-Sprayers or my Gen Too. I've also heard good things about the Milwaukee Sprayer.

 

[frank fratto]

I bought a Worx Sprayer several years back and I could never get it to prime. I still have it at my shop. Maybe I'll try and take it a part and see if I can find the issue.

I typically use my Multi-Sprayers or my Gen Too. I've also heard good things about the Milwaukee Sprayer.

My Worx is a B-tch to prime.

 

[frank fratto]

My shop carpet at one time was installed in a moderate to high end motel. They were replacing all there rooms carpet i offered to haul away 5 rooms worth if they left them whole and cut them square i had um then cut to fit and seamed together so when i drove on them they wouldn't split apart and would lay relatively flat. This carpet is the second one in 37 years thats been in this shop. And was destined for the dumpster when i got it a couple of decades ago. Ive held off cleaning this time it because im activity looking for a replacement. I may even go new this time, that way ill only have 2 seams. 1 long 12'× 32' piece across the back with a 12' × 14' down each of the 2 bays so id need only 60' off a 12' wide roll each bay will still be carpeted 14×24. I do all my own maintenance and repair on equipment and vehicles. I dont own a creeper cus its like changing oil in my livingroom. There's times i turn up the heat, kick off my shoes and wench. Only problem doing repair on wall to wall carpet is if you drop a tiny part you can't hear which way it rolled. Ive convinced several dyr's if there doing maintenance in there garage or driveway to go dumpster diving at a local carpet store and get a piece of carpet to work on and when it gets too dirty toss it and pickup another

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Any time i can take my shoe off, i will.

 

[SteamwayPro]

I bought a Worx Sprayer several years back and I could never get it to prime. I still have it at my shop. Maybe I'll try and take it a part and see if I can find the issue.

I typically use my Multi-Sprayers or my Gen Too. I've also heard good things about the Milwaukee Sprayer.

Take off the wand pull the trigger get some water flowing through WORX

Put wand back on and your primed


If that doesn't work it probably has air lock

Hook up WORX to water hose take off wand and force water through WORX

Put wand back on your primed

 

[SteamwayPro]

Im not the one trying to prove anything.

I guess that's a NO

Pics ???

 

[SteamwayPro]

My Worx is a B-tch to prime.

Sometimes when you buy WORX they have air lock

Or if you don't use it for along time


Every time the tube comes out of water you must prime again

Just take off wand pull trigger get water flowing through WORX and your primed