Dolly Llama
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Cap, what does that have to do with paint stir sticks and lightening bugs??
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Cheap Truckmounts at risk?
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Cap, what does that have to do with paint stir sticks and lightening bugs??
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Captain America
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Doesn't matter...just saying 90% of these truckmounts have kholer! Honda or Briggs....
These truckmounts have all the same parts, same engines blowers and pumps.
Only difference is size of engine and blower , ease of replacement and heat, doesn't matter what brand it's called!!
These truckmounts have all the same parts, same engines blowers and pumps.
Only difference is size of engine and blower , ease of replacement and heat, doesn't matter what brand it's called!!
Was going to buy a amreck first then lurked the forums for 6 months and bought a used proceed apex. Sure glad I did not purchase the amreck
Doug Cox
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Dolly Llama
Number 5
More than that to it Brother
Most of the backyard builders can make a decent 36 blower TM
"Some" can get a 45 right too
it's when you get 47 and up the flies in the ointment start to manifest
Belts/couplers frames start to stress
Whole different ball game the bigger the blower
Some of the successful manufacturers that have been building 36 blower units for years found out too you just can't bolt down a 45 (and especially bigger) on the same platform that ran a 36 without problems
LTA
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Desk Jockey
Member
LOLHit the wrong key - or was that a Freudian slip?
On purpose....lol
Desk Jockey
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As a machinist for 13 years , I can tell you that beyond a doubt that CHINA CANNOT meet the quality that american companies can. China relies on american ingenuity, we figure it out they try to copy it. TRY being the main part. Alot has to do with the metal, and the machining process. start with junk metal you end with JUNK metal. lets see them build a blower from scrap metal and watch it implode, why do you think gardener denver is build so heavy, its not because they want a blower to weight so much, its because it has to be extremely strong. For durability, and because of the amount of stress the spinning, heating, cooing, high vac pressures create. Along with that if you use the wrong material it can get stress cracks, become brittle from the heating and cooling process, and ultimately fail in a horrific shrapnel fashion.
Captain America
Member
I have 2 naamco's under 10 k
Replaced the 25 hp kholers around 2500-3000 hours
Upgraded the heat and no problems
I have had them 12-14 years
Replaced the 25 hp kholers around 2500-3000 hours
Upgraded the heat and no problems
I have had them 12-14 years
Captain America
Member
Let me add they did have problems with the cat pump overheating
Can't recycle the bleeder valve gotta put it back into the fresh water tank.
Also steambrite from San Antonio has some nice truckmounts between 10-15 k easy to work on
Cap
Can't recycle the bleeder valve gotta put it back into the fresh water tank.
Also steambrite from San Antonio has some nice truckmounts between 10-15 k easy to work on
Cap
Dolly Llama
Number 5
we said the same about the Japanese, Scott
The Chinese can/will make it anyway the custy specs.
they have the capacity to make cheap or quality ....whatever the custy specs
as far as steel , they're no different than here or any other modern steel mill or foundry
They'll make it anyway you want
American's desire for cheap consumer goods (and American Companies that spec the cheapest product they can get) has nothing to with whether or not China can make quality goods.
They most certainly can
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Captain America
Member
Believe Judson's been making truckmounts for 40 years? ?
Don't know about blowers but tuthill and roots I believe are made in america.
Also kholer and briggs made in america
Haven't heard much good about honda???
Don't know about blowers but tuthill and roots I believe are made in america.
Also kholer and briggs made in america
Haven't heard much good about honda???
Dolly Llama
Number 5
I'm sure there are .
I remember seeing Sunbelt TM ads WAY back in the early '90s
(Sunbelt are private labeled Jud's)
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Mike Draper
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Judson makes a lot more than you think. Sells a lot as well.
SamIam
Member
I know cobb makes about 60 a year, Iread in another post, does Les have a whole assembly line If one were to order does he make them at the time or have a bunch ready to go?
SamIam
Member
I never heard of a cobbs unit or Judson until I got on the boards, not like hydramaster cds or prochem's.
They have disty and you can get one quick. Seems to me you better plan if your going to expand with a judson.
Steam Genie was pretty big here but got put under by the blue machines, Hell socal was prochem 's market.
Pretty sure Sapphire the same guys that started prochem got thier best foothold with they're old distributors
I always feel when I've called a distributor here I've been steered back to Prochem away from masterblend and hydramasters. These same guys are now pushing SS units.
The pitch is these machines are from the makers of prochem the same engineers but newer technology.
I would think if You made your machines like a car dealer ship you would wanted someone who sells your product not undercuts it. but theres probably not enough infastructure to have each separted.
If I do get a new machine its a toss up of a 870 or a 650 hp, the prochem can fit in a van I was told the 870 needs a box truck? they're both awesome machines.
They have disty and you can get one quick. Seems to me you better plan if your going to expand with a judson.
Steam Genie was pretty big here but got put under by the blue machines, Hell socal was prochem 's market.
Pretty sure Sapphire the same guys that started prochem got thier best foothold with they're old distributors
I always feel when I've called a distributor here I've been steered back to Prochem away from masterblend and hydramasters. These same guys are now pushing SS units.
The pitch is these machines are from the makers of prochem the same engineers but newer technology.
I would think if You made your machines like a car dealer ship you would wanted someone who sells your product not undercuts it. but theres probably not enough infastructure to have each separted.
If I do get a new machine its a toss up of a 870 or a 650 hp, the prochem can fit in a van I was told the 870 needs a box truck? they're both awesome machines.
Japan is a differant animal, after we bombed them we setup their country and now they make good quality, China manufactures ok stuff, but high quality it is not. either they machine is cheap out of good material or they machine is well out of shit material. china doesnt have a reason to sell quality as they dont warranty their stuff because once they sell a bunch of something they change names and make another version of the same thing. american companies are the inventors, china just copies american stuff.
someone had a 870 in a promaster van .
this one is in a chevy van.
Mikey P
Administrator
yes, but makes me wonder why you would go middle of the road, air cooled when your used to the power of a whoretex.
Give me propane anyday. Simple and hot. No diodes, diverters, overheat shut downs, or water dumping. We have 40 gallon propane tanks and that lasts a long time.
Mikey P
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no facial hair to mess with either..
I'd say at this point it's(larger unit) unnecessary for, Mike.
Think about it... New van 25k, new tm 20k, plus new reels, racks, etc... Shat adds up quick!
