Mr Mytee....either of you....

[damion68]

F'ing ®'R...

Chris, I've been on this board almost as long as you.....DUMBA55. See, I can call names too, you pathetic POS!

Have a great day!

 

[damion68]

For those who keep trying to tell me the numbers dont matter....then why does anyone post them? Kindda silly if they dont mean squat.

I can help with that one, cause I'm one of the dudes that doesn't put much stock in numbers.
Simply because they rarely reflect "real world" experience.

manufactures and sales peeps have been hyping "best case scenario" numbers for ever in every facet in every biz

Amway trots out their "diamonds"
Joe Polish trots out the dudes that increased biz by $300K a year
the Scratch b gone dude tells us he gets a bazzilon bucks and hour for wiping a scratch
TM manufactures claim CFM specs of uncorked blowers
Ricky Cimex and the shake 'n shine salesmen spout best case scenario production number and results that rarely happen

etc, etc, etc

so numbers really don't mean much with out "real world" experience to back up claims

that's the point Scott, I and a few others are saying


...L.T.A.

Meat, thanks once again for your response, I understand your poiints. I even agree with most of them.
This however still doesn't change the fact that a manfacturer that claims great customer support, has done nothing more than lie to a customer and continues to avoid answerring the question that was posed to him. I'm just openly calling him on it. I would just like what I was told I would get, by the persons who said they would deliver it. Simple. I think as a customer I deserve at least that much.
As a consumer, when I get burned by a company, I contact the company first and try to get it resolved. If that doesnt work, I let others know who burned me and how. Then I no longer purchase from that company again.

 

[Bob Foster]

The reason I like Mytee is they have proven themselves to me to be a company that is genuinely interested in addressing the needs of carpet cleaners. We have given them suggestions about how to improve products and new products and they have responded far better than most manufactures we deal with by doing so.

When it came to addressing what carpet cleaners perceived as shortcomings in some of their products they took the criticism constructively and did change their products.

What is bewildering is, by your account, they appear to you to be conducting themselves in the exact opposite way.

Somethings wrong here. If you insist on being stubborn for the sole purpose of seeking revenge instead of a solution, some of us logically are going to judge you negatively and not Mytee.

So what do you want; a solution or just to throw some graffiti on Mytee's reputation?

 

[damion68]

I have no bone in this fight but in my opinion your original argument is pointless. stick some hose on the wand and see for yourself if the suck is acceptable to you. Numbers mean squat, its only real world performance you should worry about. Should they have gotten you the numbers, sure. but the numbers aint going to change a thing and really mean nothing. you dont need a bench mark, you dont have the gear to measure yours to compare anyway.

You should see the BS numbers truckmount manufacturers put out there to make their machines look good.

What your real gripe should be is the break down issues. But this issue gets screwy when purchasing used equipment. Now you have to figure out if it was a manufactures defect or the previous owners abuse or lack of maintance.

As a business owner you simply can not run unreliable equipment. Nothing can hurt your business more then this. I hope these issues are behind you and that the machine is reliable now.

Scott, you are absolutely right, you have no bone in this.
As to my original argument being pointless.....how is being lied to by a manufacturer who claims great customer service pointless? As to the numbers being pointless, I somewhat agree with you. But that is NOT my original point. This started because 8 months ago, I was curious, I had some questions and went to the manufacturer for answers. I was told they were getting ready for some shows and would run the tests then. The shows are over. I'd like the answers, thats it. Regardless of your value is in the numbers; I'd like to know them. Whats so wrong with that?
It was the truckmount that was bought used, not the m-12.
As for the machine breakdowns, It no longer breaks down...but thats after having to replace quite a bit of it.
And you are absolutely right a downed machine does and will hurt business. I lost quite a bit of business in the 4 months or so that that machine was my primary source of income. Which is why I finally purchased the TM.

 

[damion68]

The reason I like Mytee is they have proven themselves to me to be a company that is genuinely interested in addressing the needs of carpet cleaners. We have given them suggestions about how to improve products and new products and they have responded far better than most manufactures we deal with by doing so.

When it came to addressing what carpet cleaners perceived as shortcomings in some of their products they took the criticism constructively and did change their products.

What is bewildering is, by your account, they appear to you to be conducting themselves in the exact opposite way.

Somethings wrong here. If you insist on being stubborn for the sole purpose of seeking revenge instead of a solution, some of us logically are going to judge you negatively and not Mytee.

So what do you want; a solution or just to throw some graffiti on Mytee's reputation?

I am glad to hear you have a good dealings with John and his crew.
What I want is the answers to my questions from 8 months ago. Which is how and why this thread was started.
How is asking for an answer being stubborn?
I am not trying to throw anything on Mytees' reputation, just honestly answering the questions that have been posed to me. Unlike what John or his staff have done for me. Those were your experiences with them, this has been mine.

 

[Bob Foster]

So here are the choices. Get John to address right here on this thread or you call them and both of you could choose to let us know.

 

[damion68]

So here are the choices. Get John to address right here on this thread or you call them and both of you could choose to let us know.

Bob, thank you for your insight....thats exactly what I am trying to do. I am asking that he post it because there are others that have asked this same question.

 

[damion68]

To be fair....I just received a post from Nathan on Mytees' board....see below

Damion,

I apologize. I did not realize your request was time sensitive. I will get out the guages and do some testing myself, both of CFM and lift at the end of 50', 100', 150' hose, and try to post numbers by the end of the week.

Sorry for any delay.

 

[Greenie]

Mark, in all seriousness, the M12 uses 2 stage vac motors, not exactly high lift vacs, I wouldn't be expecting a measurement at 100' of hose let alone 150' of hose, it's a high airflow (plumbed in airparallel) configuration, it'll make 200 cfm, but I wouldn't routinely use it over 50', why would ya?

So...Nathan's comes back with a theoretical 100" water lift at 50', what does that change? How does that impact you?
I'm sorry to hear about your vac motors biting the dust, they were warranteed right?

 

[Desk Jockey]

Mark wouldn't you just use your TM and save the portable use for the stuff you can't reach or not reasonable to run an extended length of hose?

 

[Blue Monarch]

I love watching this boner toiling away at his keyboard.

 

[Jimmy L]

damion its obvious that you are not using the mytee for its intended purpose.

ITS NOT A PERSONAL SEXUAL DEVICE!

 

[XTREME1]

Just to make sure I got it I reread everything and I still don't know why you care about the testing.

It looks to me like Dr Frankenstein didn't tighten all the bolts
I was just trying to understand your situation and you came at me with

Ok Greg, I see your one of those who I am going to need to speak slowly too

most likely knowing you would never be smarter than me on your best day and just proving how dumb you actually are

 

[Desk Jockey]

I was impress with how perceptive he was to figure you out Greg!

 

[Scott Rogers]

I like this guy!! He has the balls to stand up for him self states his side well, and doesnt beat around the bush. Agree with him or not. we need more people around here like him.

And I am wondering why John hasnt piped in here. as often as he is on here I find it odd that he hasnt seen this thread.

Pointless on not he wants to see the numbers and it shouldnt take more the 5 minutes to run this test.

 

[Guest]

'Mark Why' from 'Middle' Florida? It's hard to take you serious with info like that.

Maybe this will help:

Screen Name: Mark Piotrowski
E-Mail: damion68@hotmail.com

Business Owner
Scrubbs
5489 Alderwood Street
Spring Hill, FL 34606
USA
Phone: 352-684-5832

 

[hogjowl]

Damien, or Mark, or whoever you are. It is my understanding that you are a moderator over on T-M-F. I have no beef with you, or your posts on this board, but I would like to point out that you have been given freedom of expression here that I understand is not allowed over on your board.

Your welcome.

 

[Chris A]

F'ing ®'R...

Chris, I've been on this board almost as long as you.....DUMBA55. See, I can call names too, you pathetic POS!

Have a great day!

Damien, or Mark, or whoever you are. It is my understanding that you are a moderator over on T-M-F. I have no beef with you, or your posts on this board, but I would like to point out that you have been given freedom of expression here that I understand is not allowed over on your board.

Your welcome.

Marty just made the point I was about to. And you can say dumbass here, dumbass!

 

[Brian L]

He is even pissier than Marty.

 

[hogjowl]

LOL ... I don't think so!

 

[Dolly Llama]

it that right, you're a mod over there?

as I understand it, when one of T-MF "board de jour" favorites is questioned and called out like you did here, it disappears to some secret room

is that true?

.L.T.A.

 

[Desk Jockey]

Amateur.... Marty's a pro!

 

[damion68]

Mark, in all seriousness, the M12 uses 2 stage vac motors, not exactly high lift vacs, I wouldn't be expecting a measurement at 100' of hose let alone 150' of hose, it's a high airflow (plumbed in airparallel) configuration, it'll make 200 cfm, but I wouldn't routinely use it over 50', why would ya?

So...Nathan's comes back with a theoretical 100" water lift at 50', what does that change? How does that impact you?
I'm sorry to hear about your vac motors biting the dust, they were warranteed right?

Greenie, honestly, it was just a question I had for the manufacturer. I was curious, so I asked. The numbers are what ever they may be, they dont impact me in the least. I was and am tired of the question constantly being put off. If they didn't want to answer it in the first place, they shouldn't have said they would.

 

[damion68]

Damien, or Mark, or whoever you are. It is my understanding that you are a moderator over on T-M-F. I have no beef with you, or your posts on this board, but I would like to point out that you have been given freedom of expression here that I understand is not allowed over on your board.

Your welcome.

Yes I am, and I thank you for the freedom of this board.
I would also like to keep this between myself and this board. It has absolutely nothing to do with tmf.
I did this here because this is where I have seen both John and Nathan posting.

 

[damion68]

I like this guy!! He has the balls to stand up for him self states his side well, and doesnt beat around the bush. Agree with him or not. we need more people around here like him.

And I am wondering why John hasnt piped in here. as often as he is on here I find it odd that he hasnt seen this thread.

Pointless on not he wants to see the numbers and it shouldnt take more the 5 minutes to run this test.

THANK YOU! Scott, thats all I was ever asking for. I was told they would deliver, they did not. Now, I'll wait for Nathans response.

 

[damion68]

it that right, you're a mod over there?

as I understand it, when one of T-MF "board de jour" favorites is questioned and called out like you did here, it disappears to some secret room

is that true?

.L.T.A.

Meat, I am not going to get into what happens over there vs. what happens here.

 

[damion68]

Had you ever tried emailing them or calling ?

Steve, as i stated originally, I originally asked this questionn on thier forum. All my correspondence with them on this matter has been through there. As they were responding on there I didn't see the need to call or email them.

 

[FB7777]

Perhaps its my age, ( 44 ) but if I have a question to be answered, I will simply contact the individual via phone.

 

[Guest]

For some people, that would just take all the fun out of it. Especially if you're from another BB that has hate for this one!

 

[Bob Foster]

See he had to come over here to the hate specialists to get the job done right. Don't you just love it...