FredC
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10" CRB Sale
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dgardner
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That's an interesting question. Looking at Mike's picture of the gear train it looks like the upper bearings (that you can see) are shielded, not sealed. So now I wonder if the lower bearings (the one(s) that failed, that you can't see in the picture) are sealed or not. The parts list simply shows them as 6003 - that implies a completely open bearing. A sealed bearing would have a part number something like 6003-2RS (2 rubber seals), and a shielded bearing would be 6003-ZZ or similar. If the lower bearings are shielded then they are protected from dust and debris, but not liquid entry.
If the lower bearings are shielded then switching to sealed may help. One report of a problem doesn't mean an epidemic though...
Fred---great video---you look really good in a lab coat. I always thought you were a little older.
I still have a problem with WD40 blowing past the O ring and ruining the grease that the O-rings are designed to protect.-- I could be wrong.
In the Bicycle industry we don't have o-ring chains because of the extra resistance in the chain.
He also admitted that a lot of people in the Motorcycle industry agree with me.....
Desk Jockey
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Weren't these gadgets designed for dry compound cleaning?
In the dry compound system very little preconditioner is used. Likely why its seems they aren't designed to protect the preconditioning solution from getting into the bearings.
The problem does seem simple, stay away from using excessively corrosive solutions.
In the dry compound system very little preconditioner is used. Likely why its seems they aren't designed to protect the preconditioning solution from getting into the bearings.
The problem does seem simple, stay away from using excessively corrosive solutions.
Mark Saiger
Mr Happy!
I have some extra Bearings for these units in my shop...I will see if I can find them and post...
I ended up putting new end caps on totally vs try to replace the bearings....much quicker and they were preassembled....plus....6-7 years of use and abuse....I did well with them....
They have treated me quite good....better than I have treated them.
Mark Saiger
Mr Happy!
Took it for the team and ran to the shop....
Found them....
Found them....
Mikey P
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Sealed for her protection..
dgardner
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Good deal! Sealed as they should be.
steve_64
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I've yet to lube anything on mine. I don't even clean it at the end of the day
Occasionally take it apart and wash it all up real good and put it back in the van, with the brown brushes on.
Mine has pitted on the inside where the brushes are but who cares.
Screw the 175, to heavy for daily use and the crb does better on trashed polyester traffic lanes.
Occasionally take it apart and wash it all up real good and put it back in the van, with the brown brushes on.
Mine has pitted on the inside where the brushes are but who cares.
Screw the 175, to heavy for daily use and the crb does better on trashed polyester traffic lanes.
regarossa
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Yes, as you can see the bearings are sealed. The problem is when the machine is allowed to degrade in maintenance levels to a point that excessive amounts of debris and or corrosion gets in behind the those protective plates, it becomes a problem. Here are some pics of the machine after we took it apart... Keep in mind, these machines are damn near bomb proof. It takes a very bad environment for this to occur
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dgardner
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Yikes. Surely that bearing was making noise for quite a while. There is a way to get that outer race out of the housing, but the side plate probably should have been replaced anyway....
Mikey P
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holy snikitysnacks!
Did Steve get a contract to clean the Titanic?
Did Steve get a contract to clean the Titanic?
Mikey P
Administrator
Is that for scraping the ash off toasted marshmallows?
Zee
Supportive Member
holy snikitysnacks!
Did Steve get a contract to clean the Titanic?
The way I understand it, the last batch of "crudy horror show" is not Steve's....but an example of another unit being in a rather neglected state.
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Mikey P
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correct, my reaction is to Steve's 10 month old unit.
That thing has been hitting the pool...
That thing has been hitting the pool...
Bob Pruitt
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Looks like something you might find washed up along the beach after a storm.
Nate The Great
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So is the 10" pro model still susceptible to doing that? Aside from not pulling off the hair and letting chemicals residue build up, it seems like the CRB that can be used in a wash pit may be the better route for those who don't like to maintain there equipment...
It's probably best to not lay the crb on it's side to clean them out either... Seems like "technicians" are probably driving water and sh!t further into the bearings if laid on it's side... Maybe a spray or two of Antisieze on the end caps would help with water getting into the bearings?
I have only experience with the Windsor icapsol crb... Paid $300 for it off CL and more than paid for itself when we picked up the Tandus accounts... It's not the greatest, but suits my needs for the price... It broke a belt and has corrosion on the bottom aluminum where the powder coating flaked off, but still works great...
It's probably best to not lay the crb on it's side to clean them out either... Seems like "technicians" are probably driving water and sh!t further into the bearings if laid on it's side... Maybe a spray or two of Antisieze on the end caps would help with water getting into the bearings?
I have only experience with the Windsor icapsol crb... Paid $300 for it off CL and more than paid for itself when we picked up the Tandus accounts... It's not the greatest, but suits my needs for the price... It broke a belt and has corrosion on the bottom aluminum where the powder coating flaked off, but still works great...
regarossa
Member
Is that for scraping the ash off toasted marshmallows?
Its called a finger slasher...lol - No longer available as it puts lines in the brushes. It does capture hair like crazy though. Now its a hexagonal bar in that position.
Steve Lawrence
Member
That ain't mine.holy snikitysnacks!
Did Steve get a contract to clean the Titanic?
Zee
Supportive Member
Maybe one of you distributors/dealers should make a video about proper cleaning and maintenance procedures.
Show where it can be washed and how it can be cleaned out properly.....
Instead of the clichés "proper maintenance" or "needs to be cleaned after each day of use".
Well, show them how and where and what can be done.
Show where it can be washed and how it can be cleaned out properly.....
Instead of the clichés "proper maintenance" or "needs to be cleaned after each day of use".
Well, show them how and where and what can be done.
Nate The Great
Member
Maybe a well-formulated video is in order...
steve_64
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I'd still only clean mine occasionally lol. It doesn't sound like everyone is having a problem.
dgardner
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You know, corrosion like that in aluminum and steel is (in my experience) caused more by leaving the metal wet for long periods more so than just having contaminants present. Steve, I wonder if your usage and/or storage habits somehow keep the moisture from evaporating after you have used/rinsed your CRB? Just a thought...
Mikey P
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Michigan just sucks in all regards.
Steve should move to the high desert...
What a day..
Steve should move to the high desert...
What a day..
dgardner
Moderator
A great idea. Better to lay this particular unit on it's back to rinse, I'm thinking.
dgardner
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encapman
Member
It's pretty simple really. A video would be overkill.
After each job, or at the end of the day:
1. Remove the brushes & vacuum the brushes.
2. Wipe out the housing with a mild detergent and a rag.
3. Reinstall the brushes.
~ Periodically polish the the metal cover.
Mikey P
Administrator
and..
- Spray lube on the bearing end of the two shafts each time you pull it apart
- Don't spray the unit with your HydroForce, ever, from any angle.
- Rinse the brushes real well if you ran them over urine, be a good human.
